Historic Ganton Golf Club Preview

Nish: 0:01

Every story has an ending. Does our quest to play the top 100 courses in 10 years have a good ending? I’m Nish, I’m Chris, I’m Jim and we’re here to guide you through this golfing journey. This is the Top 100 in 10 Golf Podcast, episode 32. Historic Ganton Preview. John Hopkins from the Times, who’s an eminent golf writer, apparently said Ganton is one of golf’s historical shrines, with a wonderful course and a reputation that stretches around the world. I’d never heard of it really this.

Nish: 0:33

Never heard of it okay uh, I don’t know whether that’s because it’s not been any recent tournaments or anything like that.

Chris: 0:40

Okay, I mean, I guess it’s just not. It’s not on the the kind of big boys rota is. It’s not in the open or kind of that, but in terms of like amateur events, guess it’s just not on the kind of big boys’ rota is it? It’s not in the Open or all that kind of that, but in terms of amateur events it’s a very prestigious golf course, for sure, it appears. So yeah.

Nish: 0:53

There’s like a roll call, isn’t it? Who’s who of amateur tournaments? And there’s two amateurs here, yeah, and we’re rocking up in competitive golf. Now. Ganton is ranked 25th on our list. It’s ranked 32 on the golf monthly list. It’s ranked 28 on the National Club golfer list, which is quite rare that it’s all within kind of seven places of each other. All of them agree where it sits.

Chris: 1:24

Yeah, because they really don’t agree. They’re very different, those lists, aren’t they? Yeah?

Nish: 1:28

vastly different, and it’s 69 on the world list, nice, so we’re playing a really big hitter here, aren’t?

Chris: 1:36

we, is this the highest ranked course we’ve played so far?

Jim: 1:41

I’m pretty sure it’s not Great.

Nish: 1:44

I think, woodall was 20th oh, yeah, woodall yeah, yeah, woodall was. Yeah, that was the highest one, I think so far. Yeah, and I think we’re going to play higher again this year because we’re playing Carnoustie.

Chris: 1:54

Yeah, and there’s one other we’re playing Aberdeen no, they’re lower, oh they’re actually higher than 25, aren’t they?

Nish: 2:01

but we’re knocking out quite a lot of the 20s, I think. Yeah, yeah. So that’s good now in amongst a couple of other historical bits. Uh, so ganton is a big hitter because it’s one of only four venues that’s hosted the rider cup in 1949, the walker cup and the Curtis Cup, and they only missed out to the Solheim Cup by our good mates Glen Eagles.

Chris: 2:26

Oh nice so yeah, so has anyone hosted all four of those? There must be. I can’t remember what are the four. So the four are Royal.

Nish: 2:35

Birkdale.

Chris: 2:36

Royal.

Nish: 2:37

Lytham? Okay, obviously Ganton, yeah, and I can’t remember what the fourth course is. It’s on their website. I don’t know what the fourth course is. It’s Ryder Cup.

Chris: 2:51

What would it mean?

Nish: 2:55

if it’s Ryder Cup as well, is it like Glen Eagles? Maybe it is Glen Eagles, I don’t think so. This is great chat, isn’t it?

Jim: 3:06

I love this. It’s wasted two minutes.

Chris: 3:09

All counts as airtime.

Nish: 3:12

And it’s described as an inland Lynx course.

Jim: 3:18

It’s a bit of an oxymoron.

Nish: 3:20

It’s not on the coast, so Lynx course is supposed to be on the coast, scarborough.

Chris: 3:25

Yeah, but it’s not like the coast. So Link’s course is supposed to be on the coast, so it’s in Scarborough. Yeah, yeah but it’s not like on there, it’s not in Scarborough, it’s about six miles inland. Okay, yeah, so we’re not going to be able to get any candor floss for also there, I think, jim.

Nish: 3:35

We can, but just it’d be very late at night. Yeah, We’d finish playing, but we’re going overall on the day and obviously it’s our. We covered it earlier in the series of podcast episodes but we’re going for a competition, Yep. So maybe, Chris, you should let us know how the competition’s going to work, because I’ve got absolutely no idea. Sure.

Jim: 3:56

It’s the ball in the hole.

Chris: 3:57

Yeah, the one who scores the lowest wins. I think that’s how it goes. Yeah, so it’s a better ball competition. So it’s a pairs competition, so it’ll be me and Nish against the world, or at least the rest of the people that are playing at Ganton. That day.

Nish: 4:10

Yeah, and we’re not directly playing the pair that we’re up against. Obviously we are, but we’re playing everybody, right?

Chris: 4:14

No, no no, so I think it’s Stableford comp.

Nish: 4:18

So lowest Stableford score Are they.

Chris: 4:19

So I think we’ll get 80 or 85% of our handicaps for the day we should have played worse.

Nish: 4:26

It might be 90% shouldn’t we?

Chris: 4:29

Yeah, we need to go play some bad rounds in the next few weeks.

Nish: 4:31

I mean, I’m doing my best at that, to be perfectly honest at the end. I don’t think I need to try, right, okay, and then does that mean we play off longer, because we always play off the yellows, don’t we? Yeah, so I longer because we always play off the yellows don’t we?

Chris: 4:47

yeah, so we’re playing off the. I assume we’ll be playing off competition teas. We’re playing off the white teas, I would imagine. So they have championship teas as well. I can’t imagine they put that kind of event on the championship teas.

Nish: 4:52

Yeah, I’d be surprised if they do, they usually like the sort of the marquee teas yeah really well.

Chris: 4:57

They’re not usually used very much throughout the year. They might be used for their big comps, but this is just uh, all those amateur tournaments yeah, exactly, yeah, this is just for all us hackers to go around, and they won’t let us on the fancy blue tees. So yeah, we’re playing off the whites, I’d imagine. So first I’ve not played off the whites for well, since I was 16, basically. So it’ll be interesting.

Nish: 5:19

When was the last time you played competitive golf, I mean? It’s not because, look, we’re turning up, because we just want to play it yeah, yeah and it was a cheaper round than the normal yeah, I mean pretty much 16, maybe maybe 17.

Chris: 5:30

I played a few medals that year, I don’t know, maybe this is this nine.

Nish: 5:34

Nine is the unlucky number. Is this when you get turned into a bastard at the goal on the golf course?

Chris: 5:38

yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think I just give less of a shit these days. To be honest, I don, I don’t think I really care that much. I think we need to be psyching our opponents out and stuff. Yeah, no, I mean yeah. Having said that, I played tennis the other night. I got really angry and smashed a ball over both courts and the whole club was watching on. I was like shit, that’s a bit embarrassing, Shouldn’t have done that. Shouldn’t have done that. So yeah there might be a little bit of that going on.

Jim: 6:02

Wow, I don’t know what to say then the real Chris is coming out after this.

Nish: 6:09

Yeah, momentary flickers of rage On the website, you know, because I always go through that dress codes and codes of conduct and all that kind of stuff, because I’m always looking for.

Jim: 6:21

Is that just an excuse so you can buy more clog because yours doesn’t fit the crowd?

Nish: 6:24

No, no no, somebody asked the question, remember, we got asked a few times, didn’t we? Are there any obscure rules in clubs?

Jim: 6:30

I think it’s fitter, wasn’t it?

Nish: 6:32

Yeah. So it’s kind of like it’s something I sort of watch out for now, but you know you’d see a ticket. What’s it? Now? I said this is this is great, great phrase. Uh, mobile phones may be used, uh, to send a message. Uh, not, you can’t take a phone call, obviously, when you’re out, because that’s fine, or watch moving pictures, video porn is fully banned at canton.

Chris: 7:00

There’s gotta be a story behind that. We call them moving pictures since the 30s.

Nish: 7:04

Everyone’s just sitting watching.

Chris: 7:06

Charlie Chaplin on their iPhones.

Nish: 7:08

They’re winding something up and all the pictures are going around to it. Moving pictures. What is a live picture? You take those nowadays. That’s technically the hardest. I love that phrasing of it. So that’s an obscure rule for me. You can’t watch it, so what is the dress code then? You just gotta be smart everywhere. So, uh, if you that’s standard, really anyway, but like you can’t wear trainers or anything anyway, does that mean I’m not allowed in?

Chris: 7:32

you’re gonna struggle chris I mean me and smart don’t really go together very well, I’m a tart and drews no, I’m all right, I’d rather get kicked out.

Nish: 7:42

This it said, for that I mean we’re not having dinner, obviously, because we’re just going to finish and then we’re going to eat some offsite probably and clear off. But it said, if you’re having dinner then you have to wear a jacket and tie in the dining room really?

Chris: 7:52

yeah, there’s no exceptions.

Nish: 7:56

So that’s not part of our package, is it? We just play and go, is that right?

Chris: 8:00

yeah, do they Do.

Nish: 8:00

They do a presentation. I think there might be a presentation at the end.

Chris: 8:03

Yeah, yeah, definitely. So you’ll stay for the presentation. They might have done it by the time we finish, because we’re teeing off pretty much last anyway. So it takes us four and a half five hours to get round and back up.

Nish: 8:12

It’s obnoxious, isn’t it? I think it’s live scoring, isn’t it? There’s live scoring going on when they’re doing it, so they have to get us to download an app or something and do it on that, or whatever that would be. Is it going to be, I wonder, if it’s our sponsor squabbit? I don’t think it will be, but I mean, if it is, that’s that’s amazing. Just wanted to give them a shout out. I should give them a shout out, really should give them more of a shout out more often, actually, because it’s, it is bloody brilliant that. But, um, yeah, okay, so we, that’s our, yeah, that’s our full first exposure of, yeah, repetitive goal playing like playing with each other as well as a team.

Chris: 8:47

That’s going to be interesting, whereas, like so far, we’ve been competing against each other, everybody like. We’ve got to actually work as a team this time, rather than going well, you say that I was just warming up to psyching you out, chris you say that, but as it is a course that has held the riderder Cup in the past, do you?

Jim: 9:04

know what that means yeah, it’s a match play.

Nish: 9:07

How are we going to fit that?

Chris: 9:08

in. We’ve got to do like a secondary. I mean, fucking, our heads are going to be like blowing up, aren’t we? We’re going to be able to be calculating our score for the tournament. Then we’re going to have to be doing like an internal match play at the same time.

Nish: 9:18

I’ve got to tell you the conversation I had with chris a couple of couple, probably a couple of weeks ago, maybe maybe a week and a half ago, and it was like I think I said I did the signature hole video for queen’s queen’s course and then chris went we’ve done this wrong. You’ve done it wrong, like I was like. And then it was like no, no, the signature was like right to conclusion. That’s the signature hole challenge. It’s the match play on the actual hole. You’ve done it for the side bet. I was like oh god right okay, so we’ll clarify it.

Nish: 9:45

You do the whole. We’ll see all of our shots right, great, I’m just like we just sack all these off like it’s too much good and then I’m like I’ll put it on the app, and then I’m putting on my england golf app and then I’m like you know, forgetting which challenge it is now.

Chris: 9:59

Yeah, we’ve got another one as well now we gotta do, yeah, maybe because we’ve got, because the next two, we’ve got both competitions right, so we’ve got this and then west lynx have both formal competitions, so I think the one that we do after that, whatever that’ll be I guess that’ll be scotland somewhere, won’t it? We should just do it like really casual golf, just like not even going to keep score, I’m not even going to use it, yeah right, I’m happy to do that I don’t think you are.

Nish: 10:22

Yeah, you’re right, I’m never gonna use it. Yeah, right, I’m happy to do that. I don’t think you are yeah you’re right.

Jim: 10:26

I’m gonna just put it out there you say that now, when you get there, it’s like so what’s the side?

Nish: 10:32

but I’d be quite happy to uh, we do our things anyway, so that we obviously we, we, because we record our scorecards and scrub it and stuff like that. Yeah, I’m quite happy to just like you mark your own card, I want mine at the end of the round. We just well, we’re gonna have scores anyway, so we just fire scores down, and then we’ll do it.

Nish: 10:48

We’ll do it. We’ll do it afterwards. Yeah, I mean, it was we. We played, uh, at reddish vale a couple weeks ago, was it? Yes, a couple weeks ago, so it was just post when eagles, yeah, and I had a bit of a shocker and I didn’t actually didn’t have a shock, ier, I played all right and then just had one or two really bad holes at range. I just went. I’m not even going to bother putting the score into my watch, I can’t do that. I’ll just get the distances and that’s it. That was for the last 11 holes. I played really well. It was really liberating. Just see what you see and then just hit it and then just see what happens.

Jim: 11:22

So, yeah, I don’t know. The science of golf doesn’t work for you. Then Is that what you’re saying?

Nish: 11:28

I think nerding out numbers doesn’t work for me.

Chris: 11:29

Nerding out numbers, yeah, I mean it can be helpful, can’t it really?

Nish: 11:33

I’m sure I never used to play with that kind of pressure, Like thinking of all these.

Chris: 11:36

You look a bit obsessed with it, don’t you?

Nish: 11:40

Oh, it’s like a school.

Chris: 11:41

Yeah, it is a pencil and a card. You can always fill it in later Go old school, yeah.

Nish: 11:50

Yeah, and the way we tend to do it is, we’ll just log everything on Squabbit and then we just transcribe it later into Mind the Golf. I mean, you say we very liberally, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jim: 11:57

Royal, we of course.

Nish: 11:58

Well, it’s quite funny because, Chris, I haven’t put any scores in for the last eight holes. Alright, okay, which one did you start? Well, I did one.

Jim: 12:07

Alright, let’s go from that, shall we?

Chris: 12:10

so when you’re talking about all this pressure, well it’s pressure because I’ve played 12 holes and I’ve not marked any scores yet, jim, so I’m like fuck.

Jim: 12:18

I’ve not done the score yet. That’s the stress that comes in. You know he’s got them anyway.

Chris: 12:23

I know, yeah, I’d be lost without an issue. To score for me Like a three-year-old, aren’t I?

Jim: 12:29

Basically yeah.

Nish: 12:30

Just looking after whoever I go, whoever I do. Going back a little bit to what we just talked about before, which is the, Do either of you know why they are called?

Chris: 12:43

Lynx courses. Well, I thought I did, until you just told me there’s such a thing as an inland Lynx course.

Nish: 12:47

Well, there isn’t. This has been described.

Chris: 12:51

This is the best way to describe it.

Nish: 12:52

It’s got all the characteristics of a Lynx course, but it’s an inland course.

Chris: 12:54

So Lynx is sand-based seaside golf course.

Nish: 12:58

Yes, more than that. It’s more than that.

Chris: 13:00

The name Lynx comes from Link between the land and the sea.

Nish: 13:06

Bob-omb.

Jim: 13:06

Yes.

Nish: 13:07

The link between agricultural land and then the sea, so this is about a different course, however, that’s why, normally speaking, you’ve got these courses that just go for miles out and then turn back in.

Chris: 13:22

Yeah, yeah.

Nish: 13:23

It’s rare that you’ll find, like you know, good halfway huts and all that kind of thing, because it’s a real fire?

Nish: 13:27

yeah, it’s because the land, that land is, by nature, narrow, which is narrow. So you’re not. You haven’t got the room to loop around. Come near the house, have a halfway hut, yeah, yeah, and loop out again. You just don’t have that. That’s just literally, I think. So I mean you go underground it whatever you know, but it’s technology. You’re a golf bugger. What is it? This thing I saw on Facebook, what’s it called? Clickbait or whatever? But Dubai are going to like suspend some skyscraper from space. Now I was like God, are you?

Jim: 13:59

Is that golf related? It’s not even golf related.

Nish: 14:01

It’s just a skyscraper. They’re gonna do so suspend the halfway hot from space. There you go, job done, um so yes, that’s why they call it links courses, which doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t make sense kind of yeah, it’s boring now. Now I found that out.

Chris: 14:14

I thought it was more interesting than that, but I did.

Jim: 14:17

I did find it quite funny actually when I when I read um descriptions of it. Yeah, when it started talking about, sorry, the bunkering is quite extraordinary, a real feature of the course, with over 100 cunningly placed bunkers, some of which are simply huge both in breadth and depth, whilst others are small. Only lucky for very good golfers, or very good golfers will avoid the sand traps at Ganton. So I kind of thought that, following your experience at Woodhall, that this is going to be another fun one for you.

Chris: 14:50

I like the sand. I don’t mind the sand, I’m quite happy to be in the sand, but do you know what?

Nish: 14:54

Having seen the flyovers of this course now, it doesn’t look anywhere near as. I’ll put it in inverted commas bad as Woodhall was, because you got your par threes at Woodall, they’d have like 12 bunkers around a par three, so you’d actually just have to like you’ve got four on a par three.

Chris: 15:16

Was there 200 bunkers or something at Woodall? So it’s double the amount of bunkers.

Nish: 15:19

I think it was at least 150. It was yeah, yeah, so it’s a good factor above this. Yeah, yeah, um, but it’s a podcast and it was the general manager. I don’t know if he’s there still now, but this is three years old, this podcast. The general manager was there and he’d only been in post for two years at that time and he said the bunkering is like something I’ve never seen anywhere else on a golf course in the world. In what, in what way just is that? It’s just. It was because it’s just because I’ve never seen before. So they’ve got these things called pandas everywhere. Um, which are these big expanses of sand?

Nish: 15:54

right, okay yeah, that just kind of are in between holes and just kind of creep, I’ll creep all the way across or whatever, and it’s just like we’ve never seen anything. That’s apparently that’s because you get like a foot and a half below the surface of the grass and it’s just all sand and that’s it. So that leads to it being characteristically apparently a a bouncy course and very dry, bounce, bounce bounce, bounce but that doesn’t mean really dry it’s going to be really not rain, for like months is it hasn’t, yeah, but that apparently.

Nish: 16:24

That does then mean and mean it’s going to be really fucking dry. It’s going to be really dry, it’s going to be not rain for like months, is it? It hasn’t, yeah, but apparently that does then mean and they’re really proud of it that it’s playable all year round. So it’s very rare that they have Much the same, as, of course, we’re going to review a little bit later and the next one that we’re going lengths they’re the same. They both sort of say that for us, playing off temporary surfaces is almost unheard of. Yeah, it’s got to be really extreme for that to happen. So, uh, that’s, that’s good. I mean, if you’re trying to play and you’re playing at shoulder season or winter, yeah, it’s a real possibility to go and play it, and and you know, get it at a good rate.

Nish: 16:56

I mean, the reason we’re doing the comp is because we’ve got, you know, good price to get in. Yeah, um, what was the name? Is it it? Golf Pairs Mizuno.

Chris: 17:02

Pairs Mizuno, pairs we’re doing.

Nish: 17:03

It’s close to a railway station again.

Chris: 17:07

Sweet which. We should do one of these by train one day, shouldn’t we? Yeah, we should do a little train journey on the way back yeah, fall asleep and end up in edinburgh. That was a thing, wasn’t?

Nish: 17:18

it like in the 19th century going to golf. What other mode of transport did you actually have? Horse and cart or also have to be near a train station, didn’t it? So they have to be right.

Jim: 17:28

You know, even glenn eagles is near a train station, and if you think of you could get on the train at abu dhabi and then go all the way up to rawson davidson, get up right by the golf course. Yeah, you can both both ways. Yeah, as long as you time your rounds right. Yeah, you don’t have to wait an hour and a half a lot of pressure.

Nish: 17:44

so I think, yeah, that was a kind of like characteristic bits. Yeah, of course, I think that I found do you want to know anything else about the course? Who designed it? I don’t actually know.

Jim: 17:56

Chisholm, chisholm and then that Mackenzie chap did something a few years ago.

Chris: 18:00

Yeah, I think there’s been a few fingers in that pie, haven’t there? Yeah, I’ve written it.

Nish: 18:05

Mackenzie chap helped with design, but apparently Harry Colt as well. So Harry Colt’s a very famous designer. Seems to do a lot of inland stuff, doesn’t he? Harry Cole, I think has he done the Sunningdales?

Chris: 18:18

Harry Cole? I think so. Yeah, it’s interesting. I mean there’s only a handful of them, right, but they’ve all been and done the same courses. So I wonder if there’s just a bit of one-upmanship Over the decades. The next one comes along and he’s going fuck it. I, I’m just gonna go mess with his favorite hole yeah, yeah, number 40.

Nish: 18:35

You know that was well renowned, as his foot is his favorite he’s gonna go fucking dig it up and start again. I never liked it. Can I? Can I do this and not be credited with redoing this?

Nish: 18:44

hole, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s it. But yeah, I mean in terms of the actual, so that’s the kind of the course type things. And one thing I will actually just add we’ll talk about dress codes and stuff like that. So you’ve got to be smartly dressed everywhere. They have a dormy house at um ganton and they do.

Chris: 19:07

You have to be smartly dressed when you’re in bed, in the dormy yeah, I mean, I can only tell that they must.

Nish: 19:12

I can only assume from that that they must have cameras set up in there. Yeah, like full checked button-up pyjamas. But they do offer. So we were saying that it’s one of only four venues that’s hosted Ryder, Curtis and Walker Cups.

Chris: 19:27

Yeah.

Nish: 19:28

But it’s one of only three Yorkshire venues that’s hosted a Ryder Cup. So, along with Mortan, that, we’ve played. Yeah and Lindrick, which we passed on the way to Woodall Spa, we did that. We’ve played. Yeah and Lindrick, which we passed on the way to Woodhall Spa, we did which we didn’t believe was in. Yorkshire, but it must be.

Chris: 19:40

Is that 100? Lindrick’s, not. Lindrick’s just outside?

Nish: 19:42

No, it’s not as an aside. So I’ve, just recently, all the lists have been changing, haven’t they?

Chris: 19:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nish: 19:59

And you and we’ve had a recent flurry of activity on our instagram feed of like courses that I’d never really heard of before, but following us right just probably. I don’t know whether just outside or whatever oh, I see what you mean, right okay, I was like I need another podcast here. You know, it’s like there’d be some real hidden gems there we talked about that before, didn’t we doing like? The, the, not quite the.

Jim: 20:17

The nearly top 100.

Chris: 20:18

Yeah, the nearly men that must be. If you’re in it and you fall out of it, as a business for a golf club, that must be massive. You’re not on that list all of a sudden. Their visitors must come down.

Nish: 20:34

And it must be a big deal once you get in.

Chris: 20:39

You’ve got to maintain, you’ve got to make sure that it’s still there, because there’s a few new ones in ours this year isn’t there? So we again, true to form, have just broken every single. We set out with a set of rules and we had like 4 or 5 things that we were going to do and I think pretty much in the first 6 months we’ve broken all of them.

Chris: 20:56

But we said initially we would just keep the top 100 as it was. On the day that we, the day that we started it, and then, uh, and this message the other day to say, oh, they knew the new lists are out and I was like, but I just have so much like fomo. So like I’m like, well, but then this new course has come into the top 100. We’ve got to play that one because that’s got to be better than the one that’s just gone out so basically we decided that if we’ve not played it, we’re going to bring the new ones in.

Nish: 21:20

Well, we I think we said, okay, we’ll swap out until we get to a point where one that we played goes out and then that’ll be a fixed list at that point, because at that point how do you make that? You know you played an extra course then, haven’t you?

Jim: 21:34

so who’s being demoted from the top?

Nish: 21:38

100 great question that I don’t know the answer to.

Jim: 21:42

I think I sent you a message four or five there were four that went out and I sent you a message about six that came in but we, we got the thing that probably prompted it, I think from a selfish point of view.

Nish: 21:55

What really prompted it was two North West courses made it into the into the year.

Chris: 22:00

I think the thing that really prompted it was one that’s on the Isle of man and I’ve never been to the Isle of man, so I was like, ah, fuck it, there’s not going to be any other reason to go to the Isle of man, so I might as well go into the Isle of.

Jim: 22:09

Man no twice, no no no work because it’s all full of offshore trade finance companies. 60 000 drunks clinging to a rock in the middle of the irish sea is how, um somebody described it.

Nish: 22:23

I didn’t get to sample there we were there sounds great, yeah, here we go. So we lost, uh, new zealand, which is ranked 94 new zealand, the entire country, country’s gone. The Castle Course at St Andrews, which was ranked 96th. We lost Ballyliffin Old, which was 99th. That’s a bit of a shame because Ballyliffin New is still in the list.

Chris: 22:46

It would have been nice to play Ballyliffin New and also St Andrews could have gone and done a triple header yeah.

Nish: 22:51

And then we lost Dundonald Links. That was ranked 100. We gained the Addington, which is an English course Didn’t know about it.

Chris: 22:58

Some of them have gone pretty high up, haven’t they? That was in the 80s, haven’t they?

Nish: 23:02

Yeah, castletown, that’s the one that’s on the Isle of man.

Chris: 23:05

Yeah.

Nish: 23:05

And that’s running at 93. Wallasey, yes, so 97.

Jim: 23:10

Ideal. Interestingly, speaking to someone at work and speaking to someone at work and they were talking about they had a golf day on thursday and friday in north wales and they were saying that it was a fantastic experience. But when you compare it to I think I’m not sure if he’s a member at royal holy I’ll find out um, but he was talking about hoylake and wallace and how fantastic courses they are, right, amazing.

Nish: 23:29

So you’ve just I’m proud wallacy are very, very friendly as well as a golf club.

Jim: 23:35

Scouts is the world Over, the world, in the Scouts land, so of course they’re going to be Also small kangaroos.

Chris: 23:41

Sorry, small kangaroos.

Nish: 23:43

That’s a terrible joke.

Chris: 23:44

That’s a bad joke. You can cut that out. You can cut that out. No, I’m fucking leaving that in.

Nish: 23:49

I am leaving that in People that the world needs to hear our bad battle.

Jim: 23:54

That’s where my aunt and my auntie.

Chris: 23:56

I knew someone would record one of those at some point.

Jim: 24:00

Hogwarts is a very, very special place in my heart. Who’s that?

Chris: 24:03

Wallabies when are?

Nish: 24:04

my family from. They’re pouches. And we gained Royal Dublin. Royal Dublin were the first or second golf club, I think, to actually follow our Instagram feed.

Jim: 24:18

And that’s how they got into the top 100.

Chris: 24:20

Exactly yeah, yeah.

Nish: 24:21

I’m just saying Midas Touch and all that We’ll drag you up.

Jim: 24:27

Yeah, so any golf club.

Nish: 24:28

Yeah, I mean, you know, birkdale haven’t followed us and they dropped 13 places on our list. So oh incident.

Chris: 24:35

I’d love to be a fly on the wall to see the committee meeting yeah, yeah, to see why that happened.

Nish: 24:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah has to be the open changes has to be the open change, that’s the only logical explanation we talked about it and it was, I just feel, so harsh to punish them for ongoing changes which haven’t yet bedded in yeah by that much. I mean I can understand a little bit. You go, actually at this moment in time it it’s not quite up to standard as normal. But I mean maybe whoever it is is judging has looked at the changes and just gone. Actually these aren’t going to be good changes.

Chris: 25:05

Yeah, maybe who knows.

Nish: 25:07

But you know that’s almost like you know they could potentially lose getting the Open if they’re dropping down that far. Yeah, I think it’s more about logistics than actually the course in some ways, isn’t it for the Open these days?

Chris: 25:21

Yeah to get a few hundred thousand people walking around there.

Nish: 25:23

Yeah and you definitely can over there. There’s no problem with that.

Jim: 25:27

I’d love to be on those committee meetings on Zoom. It’d be like you have no authority here, jackie.

Chris: 25:32

It’d be like that one that came out during COVID that was a local club to hear. Wasn’t it Like a local tennis club or something?

Nish: 25:39

No, it wasn’t a tennis club, was it? It was like in Knutsford or something. Yeah, it was like Cheshire, you have no authority over here. That was brilliant. Does anybody else know anything else about this club?

Chris: 25:52

The only other thing that I’ve got is having a quick breeze through the website today, I noticed a few of the past winners of their big tournaments, one of them being Gary Walson Holmes. Gary Walson Holmes, if you don’t know who he is, is a very interesting British golf character. So he’s basically a guy who basically never turned pro. So he just continued to be an amateur until he was 48. So he was at the age of 18, he was playing off 23 handicap, right, and then just started to kind of bring that handicap down through those sort of early 20 years and then became basically Britain’s best amateur. So he played six Walker Cups he won.

Jim: 26:33

What was the zero so?

Chris: 26:38

he would have played uh 90s. I think he would have won his amateur so it’s relatively recent.

Chris: 26:44

So, yeah, yeah, so it’s like 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, I think. Yeah, so he’s basically um. He turned pro when he’s 48, so yeah, so he played that whole amateur career, just all amateur tournaments, never turned pro. Basically his dad was. His dad was a really good golfer as well. His dad played, finished quite highly in the open, I think. So his dad was a really good and I think played on the european tour and stuff like that, um, but his dad basically said don’t be a professional golfer, go and do something else. But he obviously loved golf, carried on playing golf, um, and just had this glittering amateur career. It’s like, I say, six Walker Cups won the amateur at Ganton, won the British mid-amateur at Ganton again 1998. In the Walker Cup beat Tiger Woods, beat Anthony Kim. So I think what was his Tiger Tamer? I think was his moniker that they gave him.

Jim: 27:32

Was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What a title to have.

Nish: 27:34

That’s such a British thing, isn’t it? Yeah, what a title to have. That’s such a British thing, isn’t?

Chris: 27:37

it. I love that. But yeah, so Gary Walson is someone who I’ve actually played around with, so he originates from around my neck of the woods so he grew up I think he grew up all over the place, but in Silverdale, which is just kind of down the road from Kendall, and he now has an academy at the golf course that I grew up playing at at Kerris Green. Yeah, so I played. I think I played at Silverdale with him in some sort of junior comp I think, and I don’t know we got to play with him beforehand. Can’t quite remember the context of it, but yeah, I think I played 12 holes with him. I’m pretty sure I beat him, but that might be, that might be me looking at it through rose tinted glasses.

Nish: 28:09

I can’t remember the man who’s never going to keep scoring around everywhere.

Jim: 28:12

Oh, I think I scored there I think I’ve got the scorecard framed somewhere. Oh I think one thing we haven’t mentioned about Ganton is that it’s according to Wikipedia, it’s got 18 holes.

Nish: 28:22

Shock horror, shock horror. I mean, Wikipedia is fucking amazing, isn’t it sometimes 18-hole golf course? But yeah, so he’s still alive and all that. Yeah, yeah still alive.

Chris: 28:33

Yeah, yeah. So, like I say, he’s got the academy up in Kendall. He basically turned pro at 48.

Nish: 28:38

Yeah.

Chris: 28:39

I think he then went and tried to get his card, didn’t get his card, played a Euro Pro Tour for a year. I think he won something on there. Do you think at that point he was just?

Nish: 28:46

like you were.

Chris: 28:46

right, Dad, you were right, well, yeah, so he actually turned pro in his elder years.

Nish: 28:55

He did the pro thing, he just did the amateur and senior.

Chris: 28:57

And then just went and won on the senior. So he was a cracking golfer, an amazing golfer. That’s a great idea, yeah, yeah. So I think he’s got more England caps. He’s got like 200 caps or something, and then the next person below him is like 120 or 130 or something.

Nish: 29:24

So he’s a hugely decorated amateur player obviously had a lot of success at ganton, I’d say. Actually this, this um challenge has thrown up a couple of extra little interesting things for me, so golf courses that I’d never heard of, I’d never heard of ganton. Then it came up when we spoke to alex, who’s doing the challenge as well, um, and he mentioned ganton he had a bit of a. One of his playing partners had a bit of a running with the pro.

Chris: 29:34

Yeah, yeah, that’s right. So I was like immediately on the defensive about it, but you know, yeah, you’ve, so I’ve never heard about it.

Nish: 29:39

Otherwise, do your research, but you’ve got, it’s fine but, um, even names and stuff like that, and I think you took us out of it. Zane, scotland is in scotland yeah so like that name. You’re like, oh, and that name has come up quite a few, not in the research on courses, but yeah, just in from following other accounts and stuff like that. Yeah, um, he’s come up a few times, he’s like a coach and stuff, um, and then I’ll listen out for gary.

Chris: 30:06

Yeah, he’s a fascinating guy, really, really fascinating guy. Yeah, basically never had a penny to his name throughout his whole career. Just love playing golf, so everything. So he just went and worked in like retail jobs and all that kind of stuff and just put all his money to go and play golf, go and play tournaments and stuff like that.

Chris: 30:19

Um, what a hero. And he basically he turned pro because england basically turned around and said like he played for england, I’d say like 200 caps, ridiculous. England turned around and said actually we’re going to focus on the, the juniors, the younger guys are bringing the younger guys through onto the tour. So yeah, for was like right, well, sod this off, go and turn pro. Then at 48. Fair, enough. And then went and won the seniors tour. So yeah, it’s a great golf story.

Nish: 30:41

That’s a great idea.

Chris: 30:41

Go and do some research about him. He’s a good guy.

Nish: 30:45

Could, be a little bonus episode here Gary Walser now. Yeah, see if we can get him on. That comes up a lot with Ganton. I mentioned at the top of the episode that it’s a historical shrine. You, chris, will have heard the name and I think we spoke before. You’ve heard the name but don’t know much about him. But you haven’t heard the name, that’s Harry Varden. He’s a very, very prominent golfer at the turn of the 1900s. So basically he became the pro at Ganton 1897 or something like that. He won six Opens. His golf was amazing To the point where he was sponsored by Spalding, one of the basketball manufacturers.

Chris: 31:27

Don’t see Spalding in golf these days. All the old school golf stuff was Spalding, wasn’t it All Spalding?

Nish: 31:31

yeah, so he was sponsored by Spalding and Claire Spalding. Claire Spalding.

Chris: 31:36

Can you edit that one?

Nish: 31:37

out as well. Oh my god, chris, chris, chris, he’s going to go for a hat trick. Now, let’s try this. Can we team up with something?

Jim: 31:43

really bad, these terrible things going through, you’ve got to leave that in for our one listener, because Tom’s going to read this.

Nish: 31:49

Actually, I might say Lucy, Lucy, can you double our downloads please, Lucy? Chris saw some fucking terrible jokes in this episode. So Spalding named a ball after him. It was called a Varden something, the Varden Rocket or something like that, but it was a new dimple pattern they’d put on the ball. But apparently his ball striking was so precise that he always swept the ball off the turf and never took a divot. I don’t know if that’s good or bad, but apparently that was the thing and he popularised didn’t invent, but popularised the overlapping grip that’s still used today.

Nish: 32:23

Yeah, okay, that was he didn’t invent it, but, like everyone, started copying him.

Chris: 32:28

Yeah, yeah, because he was so successful. Yeah, because it’s the whole thing about Tiger Woods, isn’t there? There’s a little clip of tiger woods saying when I’m playing, well, I don’t take a divot.

Nish: 32:36

But that’s bullshit like I’ve seen, so I’ve seen those other ways, but like I’ve actually played for like 10 years and he took massive divots. Yeah, that one that steve williams very famously pulled like a snake or something basically said he never played.

Nish: 32:48

Well then yeah I think he never gave us his best. I think he’s. I’m loving tiger woods at the minute because I feel like he’s opening up a little bit to people and he’s like his personality is coming out a bit more and things like that. He was saying that to Scotty Scheffler and I reckon he was punking him a little bit. I think he’s like oh yeah, yeah, I played well.

Nish: 33:06

I mean you know very famously that with Mickelson, didn’t he? When Mickelson hit a driver like perfect fade around the corner it’s like, and then tagwoods gets his three wood out and absolutely booms it past him, mickelson’s walking up. Do you normally hit three wood that far he’s like no, I hit it further classic tiger woods. Um, yeah, so it was a. I think, yeah, I think he’s doing that a little bit deliberately. Now, that’s all possibly, yeah, yeah, just dropping a few little nuggets here and there.

Nish: 33:40

So Harry Varden he won three of his open six opens while he was the pro at Ganton. So there’s like the Harry Varden lounge and things like that. It’s quite a famous thing. But there was a movie, if you’ve ever watched, happy Gilmore Happy yes, it’s a documentary movie.

Nish: 33:59

It’s called. It had a shia labeouf in it. It’s called the greatest match ever played and that was about a match between harry varden and an american guy called uh, francis, who met or something, or we met something like that his name was, and it was he. So harry Varden was like 40 at this time, doing all the. So Spalding paid him, like at that time, £200,000. What year was this? To tour, it was like 1900. To tour he toured for like two years, £100,000? £200,000. He toured for like he covered like 20,000 miles, touring all around America with his golf ball and doing his exhibition shows and matches Apparently he didn’t lose a single one.

Jim: 34:38

He’s like the Harlem Globetrotter.

Nish: 34:40

Basically yes.

Jim: 34:41

That’s mental.

Chris: 34:42

But if you adjust that for like today’s money, that must be like Tegwood style kind of endorsements, massive.

Jim: 34:49

Longer isn’t it £200,000?.

Chris: 34:51

In 19.

Nish: 34:52

Yeah, something like that Equivalent to today’s money I don’t know, I’ve got no idea, but it must have been wikipedia. Mate could be anything.

Chris: 34:58

Let’s fact check that jim.

Nish: 35:01

Let’s fact check, fact check that probably 200 000 toenails or something like that. You know, uh, but yeah, no, you got, you got, they got. They actually just said like just, we want you to do this tour to promote this golf ball and promote, you know, do these exhibition matches and that’s all he went around doing. So, yeah, but like he was, like he was mustard, this guy really good, but this movie, the Greatest Match, is actually a really really good movie. Have you seen the Legend of Bagger Vance? Have you ever watched that?

Chris: 35:27

The Legend of a Bagger Vance.

Nish: 35:29

It’s called the Legend of Bagger Vance. It’s a Will Smith movie and that’s about Bobby Jones. I think Matt Damon’s in that as well. Bag of Ants is the character played by Will Smith. He’s the cabbie Never seen it. And what’s his name as well. Who’s the other, bobby Jones? And who’s the other Van Hogan? No, not ben hogan, walter hagan. He’s the one he’s third by the way, walton hate was the third.

Jim: 35:57

Third on the list. Yeah, even 11 majors in total walter hagan and they did.

Nish: 36:02

They did like it. There’s a match in there as well, but um uh. So look at, I’ve watched some videos I’ve said about looking bumper no moving pictures.

Jim: 36:11

No moving pictures.

Nish: 36:12

Yeah, I can’t watch this video on there the par threes look good but they do look pretty tough, those cunningly placed bunkers, very cunningly placed. So I think, to be honest, I think that’s kind of covered it for all the kind of research I’ve done. I think you said it a bit earlier that it has a reputation of being a very hard golf ball.

Chris: 36:30

Yeah, it’s tough. I don’t know if it’s particularly long, but I don’t know if it’s particularly long. But you’ve got to put it in the right places, otherwise you’re not going to score very well.

Nish: 36:37

There’s a couple of drivable half-courts, isn’t that a rough? One, yeah, jim.

Chris: 36:42

I guess what I’m saying is it’s quite tight, so you’ve got to be accurate rather than long.

Jim: 36:47

It’s a stretcher, as they say in Spanish, Because it’s held the Ryder Cup. You go in with match play, which you’ll sort out after.

Chris: 36:55

Yeah, retrospective match play Whoa.

Nish: 36:58

I don’t know. I don’t know. We could probably do a check-in every three holes, can’t we? Yeah, let’s see how it’s going.

Chris: 37:03

We can do match play yeah.

Jim: 37:04

As long as it’s not going to distract you from the other tournaments.

Nish: 37:09

I’ve got to be perfectly honest with you, mate. The actual pairs thing, I know it’s just a case. Just I’m not. It’s not even a concern of mine because, like we can’t say that we can’t win the prize. We can’t win anything because we’re not actually officially registered on their pairs. They have to play a certain number of things like six, so we’re doing it as a pretty much as a one-off so who are the sponsors of this um? Mizuno mizuno, so we will.

Jim: 37:34

I wouldn’t think I should mention actually I just thought I’d get to get my shout out, just in case listen, mizuno, if you want to send me some irons, then I’m very happy my brother got some, had some custom-made t-zoid ones when he was younger and they are still beautiful irons, absolutely beautiful.

Nish: 37:50

The one thing we should mention uh, we should give him a name check is that mark, who has been on an episode of our podcast he’s playing same day yeah, I think he’s teeing off just after us. I think, yeah, I think he said that yeah yeah, so we’re gonna uh, how long is the journey time over? Is that three hours or something?

Nish: 38:06

no it’s not that long a couple of hours, I think two hours, okay, yeah, so we’ll have to. Well, I mean, look if it’s a really nice clubhouse, which I’m led to to believe it is, and I’ve seen some of the pictures it looks absolutely stunning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we should get there nice and early.

Jim: 38:18

Yeah, we might as well Go and have a club sandwich, club sandwich.

Nish: 38:21

Club sandwich. We’re taking the beach at Scarborough yeah.

Jim: 38:24

Some candy floss.

Nish: 38:26

Yeah.

Jim: 38:27

For the round.

Nish: 38:34

Donkey, darby and all kind of to animals. Uh yeah, I think that. Uh yeah, we should sort of take all that in and maybe yeah, yeah as well we could see what the level of the competition is like, and if they’re all like, like us, then just relax. If they’re not, we’ll start psyching people out are we going to go and match an outfit we should do that we’ve got a total of t-shirts.

Chris: 38:56

We can wear them, can’t we?

Nish: 38:56

we’ve got the towels for the trolley. The trolley matches.

Jim: 38:59

For god’s sake the trolley’s exactly the same yeah, have you got the right ones this time? The right onesies, no, no, the right golf trolleys. Well, usually you’re always checking at the end going is, I don’t know.

Chris: 39:12

We switch them every other round, I think to be honest.

Nish: 39:14

Put one of my son’s school name stickers on my bag to identify which is my bag. Now, as you do, put it on the outside as well. Why have you done that? That’s a ridiculous thing to do. Yeah, we’re so. I’m looking forward to actually catching up with Mark. Yeah, we’ll be good to go, I’ll make arrangements and we’ll be like we don’t have lunch or whatever before. Mark, the club sandwiches are on you, mate. Yeah, actually, Mark, you’ve come from a very long way, so I think you should actually get us a sandwich.

Chris: 39:41

Yeah, that’s a good shout.

Nish: 39:43

But we just have two things left here, jim. That’s the Well, we don’t the Signature Hole Challenge. Sorry, it’s just the Signature Hole Challenge, isn’t it? Yeah?

Chris: 39:56

because it’s a championship. We’ve got there, yeah, oh, the signature hole. What is the signature hole? I think it’s the 18th. I think jim’s just stopped doing research and he’s just gonna say the last four courses.

Jim: 40:01

I think it’s been the 18th.

Chris: 40:02

He’s just like yes it’s the 18th, wasn’t?

Jim: 40:05

it wasn’t one of them was.

Chris: 40:06

They’re both were both 18th yeah according to our resident signature hole expert, they were yeah, yeah they’re both 18th home, but I think you are right. I think you are right. I think you are right On the Queens.

Nish: 40:14

It was a drivable par four and on the Kings it was the par five. It’s just a quirk of how it’s gone that these three in a row have been the 18th hole. That’s all. What is the 18th hole? The general manager on that podcast said the 18th is a stunning finish to a round of golf. Can’t really see where he’s getting that from, but he’s the general manager of the club. It’s basically a beach.

Chris: 40:36

Oh excellent In a non-beach 440-yard par 4 with a massive fucking beach next to it.

Nish: 40:42

Now, there is a rule in golf if you’re familiar with this or not, jim, but you’re allowed to take 14 clubs in your bag. I knew there was a limit on them. Yeah, so it’s 14.

Jim: 40:57

Who got woosanam very famously?

Chris: 40:58

yeah, he got the open wanker the night before and then forgot. I mean that must happen quite a lot amongst the caddy in community, although it’s quite. I think back in those days it was a bit less of a serious like. Obviously they do a great job, but I think these days they’re all like mega fit athletes, aren’t they?

Nish: 41:09

basically, and they’re like it’s a, it’s a pretty serious, yeah, and actually you’re on a pretty sweet meal ticket really aren’t?

Chris: 41:15

you don’t want to mess that up?

Nish: 41:17

yeah, no, absolutely yeah, uh, was it. Steve williams is like the highest earning kiwi sportsman ever and he didn’t even play a sport. He just carried tiger with his bag for 20 years or whatever it was.

Chris: 41:27

If you’re gonna pick a bag, that was the bag to pick, right oh, sorry.

Nish: 41:30

Yeah, I’m saying about the, the clubs. So 14 clubs now. Bear in mind how much sand there is in this place. Does that, if you had a shovel in your bag, does that count as a club, and will that help me get out of a bunker? Nothing’s going to help you get out of a bunker mate, you’re screwed.

Chris: 41:47

I think I’m just going to, I’m just going to stay out of the bunkers, I’m just not even.

Jim: 41:53

I’m even going to take any bunkers on.

Nish: 41:55

I’m going to. I am looking at this now and I said all this before. Are you going?

Jim: 42:01

to play uber-cautiously.

Nish: 42:02

Not uber-cautiously, but what I’m going to do is I’m going to If Chris doesn’t buy one, I will buy one. I’m going to buy a course map or I’m going to print off what’s on their website, because it’s got very detailed yeah, I mean I’m contractually obliged to to buy one now because I’ve bought one at

Chris: 42:19

every annoyingly, I didn’t buy one at abu dhabi, and I don’t know why I didn’t buy anything at abu dhabi we had loads of time.

Nish: 42:24

Yeah, we basically were staying across the. It’s ridiculous, isn’t?

Jim: 42:26

it the one that had the most time. Well, I think we, we know somebody who’s there, so, um, if you can, if you’re listening, please come on, get some money.

Nish: 42:33

Gee dog, come on, get us sorted out.

Chris: 42:35

Yeah, when it comes up to Manchester, I’ll do it. When you’re up in Manchester, Gareth, come on, get us sorted. Bring me a course planner.

Jim: 42:40

You can’t have just 99 at the end of the whole thing. No, exactly no, just imagine.

Nish: 42:44

I think I’m going to bump and run a lot. If it’s a bouncy dry course, I can’t speaking. I leave the ball short a lot with my approach lines anyway. So statistically I’ll do that 36 at a time. So actually it plays into my hands there, doesn’t it? If I can drop it short each time there’s no bunkers there, you’d be fine though.

Nish: 43:04

Well, again, look at the videos. There’s very few things in front. This is what, like wood or spa. That was annoying about it everything. There’s some stuff in front of the green. Yeah, this is this the greens. They have bunkers around the greens and that’s fine. You accept that. If you’re wayward, yeah, of course, but let’s nudge it up and you know, roll it up and that’s then links, isn’t it? You’re getting into links test there. So, yeah, yeah, I think that seems to be a strategy I might, bold strategy I might take on let’s, if I can drive like I did at glen eagles, I think, should keep me looking at the things as well. I think a lot of the the ones as happened at woodall spa. You can see the bunkers, can’t you see?

Nish: 43:40

think they’re just loads in front of you some of them aren’t even in range and there’s a big landing space and the the fairways do seem reasonably generous for what would be a lynx type design course. So I’m not. I I think it is a tough course, don’t get me wrong, but I’m not there going. Oh my God, it looks impossible.

Chris: 44:01

Yeah, I don’t think we look at any of these courses anymore and go oh, I don’t think you’re going there, worried about it, do?

Nish: 44:06

you. Somebody said was it yourself? Said it, Chris? I’m not sure, but the greens are supposed to be fast with that Lacko rain. Very good greens. Who was talking to our head greenkeeper at Reddish, Was it?

Chris: 44:22

Rob.

Nish: 44:22

Yeah, softans, rob, and he said it was.

Chris: 44:29

He’s also got a business called Softans as well. Is that why you drive a?

Nish: 44:32

head cover free. He said that I think Aaron had said to him that this is the least amount of rain they’ve ever had in spring, or something like that, so it’s a real like they haven’t watered the tea boxes but yeah, well, yeah, he was saying it was worse than the drought in 2016 or 18 or whatever.

Chris: 44:51

The old, the old, what?

Nish: 44:51

are you doing to drought? You know, that’s it yeah yeah, um, right, okay, so we’ve got signature hole. Chat is just low scores match. The match play side bet. What are you saying then, jim? So we’re gonna do our rider cup match playing between us, anyway, yeah, sorry lowest total score in the par three how about we do something like yeah, you could do like a fairways hit or something like that. That could be a good one.

Jim: 45:17

We need to enjoy it rather than kind of constantly think about challenges.

Nish: 45:20

No mate. I want to psych him out.

Chris: 45:22

We’re playing together, mate, fucking hell. I don’t care about beating anybody else.

Nish: 45:27

I don’t care If I can wipe out my 40-shot deficit in one round. I’m taking it.

Jim: 45:31

It’s like any of the predictor things that we have, like the Formula One, which I’m a champion of, just saying. Reigning champion yeah Well, retired champion, I did a Rosberg, didn’t I? After the fourth win in a row, though being even a football predictor as well. He doesn’t care about losing, unless it’s to me You’re taking my place.

Nish: 46:00

Okay, so you want to do lowest Lowest. I think that’s a good one. I like that. Yeah, and that par threes is just it. That’s just straight up.

Jim: 46:04

Doesn’t even need any handicap, just because yeah, exactly, I think I’m not lucky today there’s no state foot or anything.

Nish: 46:09

Yeah, does it yeah, okay, that’s good. Yeah, because they do look good. The par threes actually look like nice good challenges, so, um, all right, we can do that. All right, gents, I don’t think that’s good. Yeah, because they do look good. The par 3s actually look like nice good challenges. So, all right, we can do that. All right, gents, I don’t think there’s anything else to say about, apart from have a great round. I’m sure we will.

Jim: 46:24

Enjoy your foursome.

Nish: 46:26

Yeah, we shall Four balls.

Jim: 46:28

Four balls.

Nish: 46:29

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