The Fun Little Sister – Queen’s Course at Gleneagles Review

Nish: 0:01

Every story has an ending. Does our quest to play the top 100 courses in 10 years have a good ending? I’m Nish, I’m Chris, I’m Jim, and we’re here to guide you through this golfing journey. This is the Top 100 in 10 Golf Podcast

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Episode episode 30, the Fun Little Sister Queen’s Course Glene agles Eagles Review

Nish: 0:21

. So I don’t have any terrible puns or anything like that this time round. As an intro, I’m pleased to know, because I think we’re going to be chatting quite a lot about this experience. Yeah, there’s plenty to talk about, isn’t there? We are fresh off Glene agles Eagles Queen’s course and King’s course, as anybody following us on Instagram will know. Not look, what are they number seven and what are they number eight? That was the caption,

Nish: 0:56

jim

Nish: 0:56

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Jim: 0:57

Well, I think out of the challenge thus far. When you told me that you’d managed to get onto glenn eagles and play both of these courses, I think this was. This is where the challenge almost started for me. You know, for the iconic golf courses, uh, in particular, and you know they’re not ranked in the top 10 either of them 77 for the queen’s course, 38 for the king’s course, something like that. Yeah, and that’s why I did a social media blackout. I didn’t want to know anything about it until we were in the room together. We lost a follower the follower yeah, I think you were.

Nish: 1:37

you were sort of right to do that, because then I did post my what we’d done, but I was kind of all right with the stories. I mean, there was a load of stuff I was posting about how many shoes and gloves and things like that. Because actually, because you’re looking for sponsorship from someone, please, adidas Originals, please sponsor me.

Nish: 1:57

I pretty much bought everything anyway. So free sponsorship essentially, but another Gleneagles everything was built Glene agles well Glene agles this round at least two rounds, I should say the experience that I think it was like I’m gonna post the stuff that I’ve done that’s extra so I can put on your jumper and trousers and all that kind of stuff. I was like I want to post on that because I was really excited that all of that stuff was well worth doing and more. It was so good like it’s. It’s just it’s a golf resort and I think that’s a bit of a difference, because I mean no disrespect to any of the other courses that you’ve played or I’ve been on.

Jim: 2:37

I mean you drive up and it’s, it’s a golf club, uh, it’s got, uh, it’s got a clubhouse and Glene agles a restaurant and it’s got some facilities. But I think when you drive, I mean I’m not sure what the build up to Gleneagles is. I mean I’ve been nearby because we were up in Scotland for a wedding only a couple of weeks ago and you see the signposts for Gleneagles Hotel and I mean what was it like.

Nish: 3:02

You keep seeing these signs like pretty much every hundred metres. There’s like another Glen Eagles, Glen Eagle, Glen Eagle, and it’s like, come on, it’s getting close, it’s a quarter of a mile.

Chris: 3:11

But then you get there and it’s just like this beautiful like golden lettering on the signage as you go in, like Glen Eagles on either side, beautiful like flowers and stuff and this incredible driveway up isn’t there.

Nish: 3:22

Yeah, so how I would describe the approach was you walk up, you know, you walk up, you drive up this incredibly well manicured, drive well road. It’s like cars past whatever. I mean it was high-factority straight away. There were buggies zipping around all over the place, there’s impeccably well designed and kept buildings. I just I mean I don’t even have a clue about it. Just I said to him, I mean I just have a clue about it. But, like I said to him, I was like, even though it feels like it’s like a tournament or something, I had that feeling about it because there’s always been people kind of like headsets in and there’s a starter of the team that you could spot and it was just you are excited anyway and you hit that entrance and you go. I’m even more excited now. Is it? Is it kind of a road that’s?

Jim: 4:09

is it miles?

Chris: 4:11

it’s, quite it’s quite long you kind of go the golf courses are actually just as you come in. So just as you come in, they’re just hanging there and left. But then there’s a further bit that goes up round to the hotel. So you don’t see the hotel at first. You just drive up and drive past the clubhouse and the first tees. Basically, what’s the clubhouse like? It’s alright, it’s very shared. No, it’s not very shared, it’s massive, it’s huge, it’s huge. Yeah, it was at the Henry Woods Towns, wasn’t it? They’d basically redone it for the Ryder Cup. So where we sat in the dorm in the morning and we had our breakfast was for the European teams, and they built the same on the other side for the American team. But then they didn’t finish it. They didn’t finish it for the Americans or something, so then they had to ship them out to a tent somewhere Rightly so.

Jim: 5:00

Yeah, is that why?

Nish: 5:01

they lost. Yeah, yeah.

Jim: 5:03

Yeah, yeah.

Nish: 5:04

Yeah, they use the waterproofs not being waterproof, and then this time it was the Poor breakfast facilities. Oh no, the clubhouse wasn’t right for us. Yeah, it’s good.

Chris: 5:16

Yeah, you go into the locker room and there’s a guy there just seemingly to just to chat to you just to make sure everything’s okay.

Nish: 5:23

You can imagine if people are on the pro tour. Everything’s done for them, right? So goal balls are provided, teams are provided. Here’s your course map. Here’s your scorecard. You go over here? Oh, don’t do that, I’ll let Chris tell you the backstory. But don’t do that, we’ll do that. Everything’s just done. Just tell them. I mean, everything just revolved around when’s your tea time, and I was staying at the hotel. He answered your tea time and then he said yes, I’m staying in the hotel, so you don’t need to lift a finger. We’ll sort absolutely everything out for you.

Nish: 5:58

And that, for me, I felt that’s the closest I’m probably ever going to get. Well, no, I’m not saying probably, that it’s the closest I am going to get, and I don’t think there will be an experience perhaps in the States, if we ever make it over there. I don’t think there’s going to be anything in the UK or our challenge. Certainly that’s going to compare to that experience. Because, as we were in the midst of this amazing experience, I’m interrogating that list going go on. Then where are the other resorts that we’ve got to go?

Jim: 6:29

to.

Nish: 6:29

This is amazing, and I just don’t think there’s anything comparable to Glen Eagles, because it’s world famous and the hotel the hotel in its own right is world famous and the level of services is world famous.

Chris: 6:45

I was excited about all the little touches, but you were like a giddy old school girl. I mean to the point where I was like I’m not sure I can chat to Nish about the angels anymore. I can’t take the excitement, it’s too much. We’re just going to be disappointed when we get there. One of the nice little touches is that they’ll basically take your bag for you and they’ll take your bag away whilst you stay in the hotel for the weekend and they’ll sort your clubs out for you. So when you’re due to play, they’ll kind of get your bag out and put it next to the tee for you. So it’s ready to go.

Chris: 7:15

So, yeah, when we first drove in, we’re driving up the road, we see the bag drop and Nish follows me back in. Then me and me and Lucy get out the car. Where’s Nish gone? He’s literally just right behind us. And then so a little wonder, on the car park, I must be here somewhere. And then just a little little, penny just dropped and went. Ah, wait, a minute, there’s no way Nish is going to be able to drive past that backdrop without getting rid of his gloves’t there the look of like incredulity on my face.

Nish: 7:43

When I saw Chris turning around in the parking lot, I was like what are you doing? What like? There’s a sign here that says golf back, drop off. There is no way, I’m not doing that. That’s what it’s there for. That poor guy. He’s had nothing to be had, though, to do. He had loads to do. This is his moment. It’s his moment to shine, and I don’t know what his name is. I’ve never asked him, but that’s what he’s there for. So I got out and I was like I need to give you my bag. We’re playing at 11 o’clock today. We’re staying in a hotel, we’re going to have breakfast here, but what’s the deal? Where do we park? Where do we go? And you say so, it’s no problem at all, head up to the hotel, drop your golf bag here. I’ve logged your team time. Head up to the hotel, and they’ll be able to check you in and sort me out straight away.

Nish: 8:39

Thank you, that’s exactly the answer I was looking for Even that it’s not like oh no, check in’s not till three o’clock. You know there’s none of that. It’s full of like you’re here now, you’re in our care.

Chris: 8:54

Yeah, but that whole experience was just otherworldly, wasn’t it? I’ve never experienced anything even close to that before. I don’t think, Because everything’s kind of like decorating sort of 1920s vibes, isn’t it? It literally feels like you’re walking into some sort of decadent 1920s film and it feels like it felt, all the world if, like, there’s 48 hours, they give you that vibe completely, don’t they?

Nish: 9:12

yeah, and again, the staff were great because they weren’t stuffing it over formal, we were chatting, all that kind of personality came through even then. So we’d checked in. We were running a little bit behind for our breakfast meeting with Hendy, who was the member that invited us, and we’d heard because the guy that had done my backdrop which you should see he’d done it, he’d find this information out. But when I did the backdrop he said if you want, it’s only a three or four minute walk from the hotel back to here where we’ll meet you for breakfast, or if you let them know in the hotel, they’ll run you back in a buggy. I was like, wasn’t there a way of not doing that?

Nish: 9:54

We didn’t get a buggy, right. So we’re waiting on a buggy. We’re like great, we’ll sit in the back of a buggy, whatever. No, no, no, no, no. This eight-. No, no, no, no, no. This empty to Mercedes van Vito van turns up full on black or fully kitted out buttons to do the door and the lock driver fully, and you basically just step into this thing and out. The seat is just literally just like. You don’t even need to do anything with your muscles to sit down in this van. Right so? That button looks good and whatever. But you’re in your golf gear, right so, whatever, but you’re in your golf gear. So we were in our golf gear at this point, ready to go to breakfast. They’re taking you from where you’re staying in one of these luxury Mercedes Vito vans down there you arrive, you press the button, all the doors fly open, you just like step out and you’re like great, I’m in a clubhouse right the closest.

Nish: 10:42

The closest I’m ever going to feel to being a professional vulture or somebody important. That was it. But yeah, that was next level stuff, mate. It was really hard to detach yourself from that to then go right, actually, let’s go and play, let’s go and play. It’s a farmer challenge, right? And that clubhouse was beautiful, wasn’t it? Yeah, it was pretty stunning, but we did the skate happened. Then we did have a. I just didn’t get a chance to have a practice ball before we went out for a run.

Chris: 11:13

Too much food consumed Well, no food, because I think I had breakfast, so as good as the service was, that was the one blemish, wasn’t it? I missed my breakfast order so I didn’t have any breakfast or a practice, so I was pretty grumpy at this point. Do you not share any of yours? I don’t think he wanted any of mine. They did make me a bacon boy so they quickly made me a bacon boy, so I had that and Lucy shared a bit of mine, but I missed out on my smoked salmon breakfast.

Nish: 11:39

We went down into the locker room and you’re walking past all the pictures of the Ryder Cup. So again, for me that was a personal highlight that I was looking forward to, with all the Ryder Cup memories. That was on a PJ course at the club. That was on a PJ course yeah, a lot of pictures, obviously, all in the clubhouse. You go into the clubhouse and it’s just like plush carpets, the lockers are all great. So it was kind of like the build-up to playing the golf is unbelievable.

Nish: 12:09

Yeah, to be racking up and we would have got I don’t think we would have got no preferential treatment as being with a member. We were originally booked as a visitor. But all that stuff that we’ve got is just that’s just that’s the service that you get. So, whoever’s, yeah, if you’re playing there, you’ve booked your round. If you’re not staying, doesn’t matter, but you’re still going to get back. I mean, obviously you’re not going to get your violin park in there because you’re not in the hotel. Yeah, it’s a separate bit, but yeah, that kind of brekkie onwards to your, to your tea box yeah, but we did have a nice little celebrity spot for breakfast as well with me that morning.

Chris: 12:49

Yeah, you did, I did, but I didn’t mention it to the officers. But yeah, paul Laurie was at first. When we went in, there was a guy who looked a bit like Paul Laurie and I was sat waiting for my breakfast whilst everyone else was eating my breakfast.

Chris: 13:07

Did you choose it? I think Paul Laurie might be eating my breakfast. You should have taken a picture and you could have gone, Nish, smile, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, go and smile. But then the starter said the next day, didn’t he that he so? He was playing a competition with his son. He was playing on the Saturday, he played on the Queensland on the Saturday and then played on the King’s on the Sunday, some sort of knockout with his son.

Nish: 13:33

So one thing I did find out. I can message you about this later, so this will feed into our golf, I suppose. But they were having at that time they were having a members scratch competition over two days on Queens and Kings courses. Oh right, so I heard that the ping positions were particularly devilish when we were playing Interesting, which I think massively, because there were a couple that were tucked away, weren’t there? Yeah, certainly on the Kings Kings definitely.

Chris: 14:04

There was some where you couldn’t even see the flag on. Some got like par-3 greens like them. That was it.

Nish: 14:09

So when I heard that, I thought, oh, that’s quite an interesting development, isn’t it? You know that’s not normal.

Chris: 14:17

It didn’t feel that over the needle. I mean, I think with those greens pretty much certainly on the first front, nine on the queens, wherever you put the pin, it’s a nightmare because there’s so many undulations and stuff on the on the greens lush and gorgeous, I think it looks. All three of those definitely. Yeah, I mean, like you say, once you’ve made it to the green, it’s like it’s definitely not jogged on at all. On the queen specifically, yeah, it’s um, it’s hard work at that point. So we’re at the first tee.

Jim: 14:47

The Queen’s course number 77 on the that’s 77,.

Nish: 14:51

Yeah, there is a 90,. That is green For the Queen’s course. That didn’t prepare us for the course. I think that green is more set up for the Kings, for the focusing practice. So we didn’t replicate, did we? No? I think that green is more set up for the Kings, for the focusing practice, so it didn’t replicate, did it? No? I think the green.

Chris: 15:09

Yeah, we really used all the final pace of the greens. They were slow, weren’t they? I’m decent at picking up the pace of the green. I was struggling with that.

Nish: 15:20

You don’t do it with it, do you? No, no, I don’t do it. At the weather I can pick up the pace just to come up. It’s slow and perfect for making a whack itself. Yeah, exactly that was it, and then, as the afternoon wore on, then it started getting a bit warmer. By the way, the weather was fantastic. Yeah, it was glorious, wasn’t it?

Jim: 15:38

Absolutely. I was looking at us thinking that’s really Midge. Watch Any midges. No, they’re midges Early in the season.

Nish: 15:44

Yeah, I think they were blinded by my nice white.

Chris: 15:49

There’s no way I’d have liked them in three mile radius. Oh, there he is.

Nish: 15:55

So yeah, the green probably is representative for the Queen, but definitely for King. We generally put it a bit better on the King River, but pace was more matched to that. There wasn’t a hitting net, so we couldn’t even really go and hit it. We had to go to the range. Did they have a net?

Chris: 16:12

at the range. No, the range is across the road, so it’s a bit of a walk down to the range.

Nish: 16:17

A walk. Should have got a buggy, mate I should have got a buggy, shouldn’t I?

Chris: 16:21

I’m guessing the range was great. The range was decent. Yeah, I was expecting grass bays and all that kind of stuff, but it wasn’t quite like that. You got the three little basket of tailoring balls, which was good. It’s a full length range. It was alright. It wasn’t mega special, Probably the best one I think we’ve seen so far, but nothing out of this world there’s nothing being amazing no, I mean range.

Nish: 16:47

I suppose Woodhulls Far was a good range, but they had no grass days on that one no, yeah, I think.

Chris: 16:53

Yeah, it was decent, but it wasn’t like you didn’t like from like everything else at Glen Eagles you just were like fucking hell, this is incredible. Walk away from the range going. That was incredible, it was good, but it wasn’t mega and there’s a little short game practice chipping area as well, but I didn’t really use that. I’m glad I had an extra bacon and sausage you had, so we rocked up to the first tee so you had Chris’s, basically yeah, basically yeah. So it wasn’t Paul Laurie at all, it was just Nish.

Nish: 17:18

So we rocked up to the first tee and there’s a starter, as we’re getting used to now kind of thing. Does that put you on the first one? On the Queens, because I’m a nice fan of the Crips the fairway is really wide. No, it didn’t actually. No, like, really really wide is fairway, isn’t it? On the Queens?

Chris: 17:33

Well, that was the Queens. I think the Queens, the Queens wasn’t that wide.

Nish: 17:46

It was pretty. Yeah, you missed both. I missed both, to be fair. Yeah, it’s because I didn’t get a practice mate. I like it, though it’s just for If you ever feel like doing a side bet Jim a bit unfair.

Chris: 17:51

The first two years Only if there’s a watcher.

Nish: 17:54

You’re actually getting me to level it up somehow. But yeah, so your event, you get at the tee box, you get your course guide including all the yardages in there, lines to 84 and all this kind of stuff which chris normally pays somewhere between six and twelve pounds for from the club shop.

Chris: 18:14

That’s included, and you could pick up teas. You get, yeah, the stivet tool. So the guy in the queens was like, just take as many as you want. I was like that’s a mistake. My hands are bigger than they look Interesting.

Nish: 18:28

Bring the car. We need a bigger car, but you can see, all this stuff is just like I’m giving the pot pencils and the score cards all around. Yeah, it’s just those little touches were like they were top notch, weren’t they? Yeah, and they were kind of of like I found so far, all starters have been actually really really good.

Chris: 18:50

Yeah, I think starters, I’ve realised, are just people who used to play golf, probably physically can’t quite play golf as much as they wanted to, probably retired from the job and they’re going to go. I’m just going to be able to be a golf star. Yeah, perfect job. They’re all. They’ve all been golfers. I think everyone we’ve spoken to, haven’t we? Yeah, yeah um, and they’re just, yeah, they just grab, just sit there and chat to you about golf for yeah, five or ten minutes.

Nish: 19:12

And then you knew hendy. He was just like having a little bit of a guess with him, so you should probably have a little, a little word for henry, because henry was an absolute legend.

Chris: 19:21

he was such a good guy, well great. He regales with a lot of tales of the course and the club anyway. Yeah, I mean he holds an audience, doesn’t he?

Nish: 19:29

He does, absolutely yeah, and obviously we’re very grateful that he invited us up and allowed us to play. I don’t think he’s really got a choice. No, I’ve got a shoe on my arm. No, he’s not going to play. When are we going to play? When are we going to play? When?

Chris: 19:43

are we going to play? Obviously, that’s the first round we’re playing in Scotland, but in terms of a Scottish welcome and the level of friendliness that we had from them was really epic, wasn’t it?

Jim: 19:53

Yeah, it was so awesome. I was surprised, almost you know, when Scottish Head did such a good job.

Chris: 20:00

Well, that’s why we’re going off Jim.

Nish: 20:03

So we started off. The first is pretty straightforward not really that much danger in play, although you wouldn’t guess from our scores yeah, we didn’t start that one, did we, even after a good drive.

Chris: 20:14

it was a bit absolutely mad, but I’ve three-putted on that and that was pace of greens not being mirroring what we’d just done on the practice green. Was it bone dry? It was dry. It wasn’t really mine, it wasn’t. It was the first time that we’ve played this year where it was like the first shot. I hit off the fairway on the first hole. It was like, well, it actually took a decent dip there. It was a little bit wet still, so it’s obviously a bit damp up there than it has been down here.

Nish: 20:43

It was nice that.

Nish: 20:44

It was a good to have good, solid contact off, that there’s no squelching or whatever. It wasn’t like oh, this is so dry, everything’s just going to be really neat. Yeah, it wasn’t like that. The greens were a bit receptive and there was a bit of softness around the fairways, but it wasn’t like the bottle was bouncing along pretty well, wasn’t it? Yeah, and then hole number two is a par three. Now, this course is unique in that it has five par threes. So it’s the wings is just a shorter course. In general, it has five par threes, and I suppose we’ll just jump straight into it. The par 3s on both courses are magnificent. There’s only one word for them they’re visually stunning.

Chris: 21:34

Yeah, I think in terms of a takeaway from both, I think that’s probably the key takeaway that I had at the thing we both took, wasn’t it? Yeah, I think there were some really good short risk reward par 4s on both courses, but I think the par 3s as a set of par 3s.

Nish: 21:49

They were all pretty nice. I thought they had the right blend for me as well, of there’s enough danger there to keep you like I can’t just nudge it up and then it’ll rub along or whatever. I’ve got to go for it, but there wasn’t enough danger. No, no name extension would have spar, where if you just didn’t hit the ideal bit on the green, you had it like you know you, you’ve got to work really hard then, so to rescue anything from that.

Nish: 22:22

So I thought that that was a really. For me that was a great blend. Yeah, they were really good. You probably had if you looked carefully enough you probably did have a bait out area that you could just go for. I actually go for that. I wouldn’t hit a bunker, and if I do miss it, I’m sure I can probably do okay from there.

Chris: 22:41

Yeah, but also I think visually they were just all absolutely stunning, weren’t they All the like?

Nish: 22:46

mountains in the background, or people, the tree line, like they were all just looked the part and it was just special Okay, same phrase because of, like nature’s ball tracer, and that’s it, lush green trees behind the green and you hit your ball and you just see it the whole way and if it lands in the green, you’re just like, yes, it’s got it, it was it, it they were, they were okay, it is an absolutely stunning platform. Yeah, and those par 3s, the way they made them, absolutely, yeah, amazing. So, whilst we’re talking about par 3s, should we talk about 14th? The 14th which I’ve got to say, oh no, we need to get to that. Oh, you need to get to that. Yeah, I think so.

Nish: 23:25

Come on, chris, we can’t beat too soon, we’ve got to beat some fourth, something amazing to tell you. But, yeah, as you’re winding your way through on that front, nine at the Queens we identified, was it the third and the fourth? Six and seven, six and seven, sorry, so you’re sort of playing it, you’re teaming off, and then, oh, yes, so we hit the third. At the third, you’re over on the right edge of the course, where it’s like Millionaire’s Mansion Road, and that’s where I saw Toby Stark’s house, that’s where I saw it as well. I was like, oh my God.

Chris: 24:04

And they were massive. I mean you often get like nice houses next to golf courses, right, but this was like something else. Yeah, juice, like yeah, proper, like LA style, massive glass-fronted mansions.

Nish: 24:16

It was mental, yeah, so that took your mind off the golf, just like that.

Jim: 24:22

That pokes into my mind oh shit, I’m going to hit it like that. Yeah, that’s it.

Nish: 24:27

And then we hit another par 3 on the 5th. It was again stunning hole. That’s a really beautiful hole. We sort of arrived to it. It was funny because one of the rangers had driven past and we’d just hit our tee shots. But I think he’d seen the tee shots and had got them away, kind of thing. But yeah, the trees were so tall you could see the ball flight the whole way. I was in heaven when I saw the fire and it was a stunning hole. Yeah, it really was. And then we hit the seventh.

Chris: 25:02

Now, the seventh is a really interesting hole. I think it’s the sixth. Don’t forget the sixth. I think the sixth was probably the most beautiful. Oh yeah, that was a nice hole. The sixth is that beautiful rowing hills and it’s got the little road. It’s probably the only podcast, where it’s not as much as it is, shall we do? But yeah, beautiful rolling hills, wasn’t it?

Nish: 25:24

And then there’s, like the little road down the side, a little country road, with these little street lights down the side and it just looked yeah, but left right, bunka, bunka, bunka and it was all like in a valley so everything was going to feed into the middle. But just to the eye it was, but just to the eye it was. The one of the things that had been said about the golf courses at Glen Eagles was that they’d been, they’d been designed in a way that you don’t know what’s man-made and what’s natural and what you know the natural features, and it’s easy on the eye. But front nine, it really did deliver that what a great start that was.

Chris: 26:00

I think that 5, 6, 7 the stretch of holes is going to be difficult to beat. The stretch of 3 holes I think is a tough one. I don’t think we were going to the end.

Nish: 26:09

We kept budging we’d see a good hole for the dream 18. Yeah, it was another one, so yeah we were pretty giddy at that point weren’t we?

Chris: 26:23

We were just like fucking hell. This is incredible, Didn’t play?

Jim: 26:25

well, but you know, and how were the schools going at the moment? And we didn’t start well actually.

Nish: 26:35

We’d taken that out of the ball, the beauty of the course, which is great, and that was a lovely ult and that’s the first par that any of us hit. So Chris hit a par on that one and that started us off. And then we hit the seventh dream. Seventh is the only par four er par five, sorry on the Queen’s course, and it is absolutely magnificent the whole of Cork. You start off at the highest, probably the highest point of that course, and your team knocked out of it. Great. So it’s good for your ego, because you know that’s long, right, but you we were saying about undulations, right, but actually it was a bit rollercoaster-y, everything was sweeping all the time. So, look, there was a lot of times when you kind of had to trust the yardage because it sort of dipped and visually you thought, well, it’s not that far, but actually it did have the distance. But because of that it just had this, I felt it just had a flow to it.

Chris: 27:38

Yeah, I think that’s the right word, isn’t it?

Nish: 27:40

It wasn’t like rippled, there wasn’t anything that was rippled. I was expecting like rippling and stuff like that. It was just like mate, these courses tend to they always tend to be rippled for whatever reason, and some idiots decide that’s the way that looks nice on the eye. They’re like, yeah, great.

Chris: 28:03

But then your ball’s always going to be over that or that. But I didn’t find that I was expecting a lot of. You know, I think especially on the Queens you didn’t get many random up and down side lines, it was fairly. It looks like it’s fairly undulated, but actually the fairways themselves.

Nish: 28:13

I think it filters, filters down into a relatively flat, yeah, but the seventh hole is notable for another reason, and that is that gives you the best view of this ghost course. That is what is Glen Eagles West West. Yeah, so it’s this course that is so exclusive. No one’s ever played it, aside from members of this guy from the UAE who owns it, who also owns Highland Spring Water. He discovered it on the property that he, I think he’s got a. We drank a lot of that, didn’t we? Highland Spring?

Chris: 28:49

It was free, and they were free in October. So yeah, there’s that stuff. It was a hard drink Free water, wasn’t it yeah?

Nish: 28:54

So it’s the what you know, isn’t it? It’s sort of here. I mean, I part of that was I played that hole really, really well and it started. That started. Then I think we kind of we got into our stride. At that point now I don’t think I had Not on that hole.

Chris: 29:11

Normally the par fives for me are an opportunity to, you know, at least have a crack at a birdie or probably make a par, but I made an absolute fist of both of them. Put the par 5s on all yeah Instead of on the Queens.

Nish: 29:25

That was one that was from your own real little up hole, yeah, so an 8 there Didn’t play the Kings par 5 well either, no, and then you hit the eighth and the eighth is a really dry. You can, you can drive the green. It’s downhill all the way. It’s probably about, is it about 320, something like that, 310, yeah, oh, good memory. But I didn’t need any traffic, I didn’t need to put it into the bunker. But I stopped just short and three ladies were ahead of us and were just peeling off the green as we pressed the third, I was like, oh my god, they must have been putting when that wall landed over there. I was like I’m really really sorry, but we both carved that and again, that was visually a great hole to play.

Nish: 30:12

Then you come into the ninth, which then that whole drop that you just done on the seventh. All the way downhill you go dog leg but back up right. So you’re on this roller coaster nature. You just kind of like you’re all the way down. Honestly, it was the roofing gym, was was immense, immense and it’s you know, again, the green is above your feet. You kind of you can see them all the whole way. Oh, I had so much fun.

Chris: 30:40

Yeah, so much fun at that golf course. Yeah, it was just. It was a fun course. That’s the right word, isn’t it? It was fun to play, yeah.

Nish: 30:47

And then at the top of that green is the feature that’s probably the best fit the whole lot, which was ringing in your order for the halfway up. There’s a phone at the top with a dedicated phone line to the halfway hub with a menu, and you ring up and you tell them what tea time you’re on and they said that it’ll be ready for you. I was like, yeah, whatever, you know, we rocked up and what tea time was it 11 o’clock. I was like there’s good, just sat there on the couch waiting for us. It’s pretty epic, isn’t it.

Chris: 31:19

It wasn’t just like a sausage roll either. You could have whatever you wanted like. So I had a lawn sandwich on the first day, whatever. That is like a sausage roll sandwich, which was pretty awesome. You must be starving by this time as well. Yeah, exactly, no breakfast, no practice, starving all night. So be a little bit of a man of my requirements and then you get to the.

Nish: 31:42

You start then doing the back nine and again that kind of rollercoaster. Nature just carries on. There was one point I was going to say the value of doom. But it can’t be the value of doom, can it? Because it’s actually that beautiful. But we were walking along. I don’t know what we were chatting about. It was probably on the recording that we took the whole round. But we’re chatting about something and I just had to stop in the middle because you’re hitting the top of this hill and laid out in front of you are the green where you’re playing to, and there’s the back to back part 3’s, which are again a feature of this course, and there’s a lovely lake in the middle of it all and it’s just like. That is beautiful, Absolutely stunning.

Jim: 32:23

So you weren’t walking up the hill and had to catch your breath?

Nish: 32:26

No, it did feel that.

Jim: 32:28

That’s when you said you were at the top of the hill and had to stop. I thought it was because you were.

Nish: 32:34

It took my breath away, but in a good way. Yeah, it was amazing, and that in that little valley. You’ve got the two facts about part threes. You’ve got the 13th. That’s a relatively simple one I didn’t play it simply, but it’s a relatively simple one. And then the 14th. That’s the tricky one. That’s the one where it’s a two-tiered, two-tiered grid, but it’s not just a whole two-tier. I think it’s the biggest tier I’ve ever seen. It’s a big drop, isn’t it? It’s massive, it’s a big drop. You’d give me vertigo. I stood up and hit the top tier. The pig was on the bottom tier, so that was great, great start. And then Chris stepped up for his tee shot.

Chris: 33:12

I’ll let you describe what it’s downwind a little bit 170, 70 yards, cut me 8 in and out, absolutely nailed it 7 out of 10. Yeah, just absolutely middle of it and I was like it’s a beautiful strike. Just a little bit of a draw coming around and I was like, looks like it’s fairly close to that, pitches about what a foot to the right of it hops on a little bit, spins back, misses the hole by about a centimeter and finishes about an inch and a half in front of the hole. Oh my god, so close.

Nish: 33:53

So so close there was a group ahead watching as well, yeah, so it was kind of like everything, everything there, but it would go in. I can’t help. But I was like that’s on the flag. That’s on the flag, chris. That is, that’s, let’s go.

Chris: 34:09

We’re like ahhh. But then afterwards I was like that is the happiest I’ve been to not get a hole in one ever. Like Glen Eagles is not the place to have to buy everyone a drink after the round for getting a hole in one. That would have been an expensive mistake. I missed my own. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a little facial recognition, mate on your side. Yeah, yeah, yeah of course, no, no, no counter that. So yeah, that was very, very, very, very close, very close.

Jim: 34:37

Yeah, that it was. Please don’t tell me, you three putted him in.

Chris: 34:42

No, I gave you the putt there. I gave you the putt, it was yeah, there was no way you were going to tap it in. I didn’t tap it in.

Jim: 34:50

They said that to me afterwards. I was like did you not tap it in?

Chris: 34:53

I was like not really. No, he knows his putt. It was a 50-50 chance of a go dude.

Nish: 35:00

I love that. We should have made him come for that. He deserved it for that teen shot. It was perfect. It was a perfect teen shot. It was yeah.

Chris: 35:09

Sometimes, when you get close, it’s a bit of a scary shot and it kind of works as well, though that was absolutely just out of the box.

Nish: 35:15

It was on target, but it pitched right next to the hole, span back Just past the hole and finished up yeah, everything it deserved, yeah. And then I think that closing stretch is great Again, I think it’s really like. I think that actually the challenge ramps up. I think that sort of 15, 16, 17. Because that part of it all dropped off, that was all. Yeah, that was a relative small hole. And then on the left was just bush and tree. I don’t know how much part of all in there, but there’s that, yeah, and that was a small green too.

Chris: 35:49

That was a tricky par three.

Nish: 35:50

That was that 17, wasn’t it? That was a nice hole, yeah, that was 17,.

Chris: 35:57

Yeah, yeah, that was. I mean, I think in terms of the challenge, that back nine was like the hole. After the 15th, I hit a four iron onto the green, par four, like it was. It was relatively easy, I think that back nine I think, and that was probably reflected in certainly my score anyway, but I think this is where my one dream comes with all these courses.

Nish: 36:17

Now, jim, I think some of these courses are ranked high because they’re difficult. I’m convinced of that, and I don’t think that’s, for me, is what it should be about. It’s about enjoying that round of golf on that day. Now, that’s not you scoring well. I haven’t scored particularly well here. We’ll get to that in a minute. It was more than my handicap. However, I’ll get to that in a minute. It was more than my handicap.

Nish: 36:47

However, I walked away from that and I was like I really enjoyed that round of goal. There were plenty of moments where I felt good because I drove it big just down the hill. So, of course, the numbers are going to be big and, yeah, great. There was plenty of times where I hit the ball and I could see them all the whole way and it was satisfying to see a slightly trickier green, but it was very, very playable. I remember we played all saint david’s. We said the same thing. That is a highly playable course. You, you do well to really lose your ball drastically. You could do, clearly, because there is rough and whatever. Yeah, but you’re not going to come like, oh my god, I’ve spent another 50 quid and you’re going to walk away. You’re just going to go. It was badged as a fun course.

Chris: 37:39

Yeah, and that was absolutely spot on. Yeah, I think we differ a little bit here in terms of where we look at these, because I look at them and go. I want to go and play the best courses in the world, that the pros are going to go play and that you’re the biggest challenge. So, I think we do look at it in a slightly different way and I totally agree with you.

Nish: 38:00

I think visually that was absolutely beautiful and it was so much fun to play. I think if you had a bad round day and you’d still walk away and go, do you know what? I had a great day because it was like, don’t get me wrong, I’ve got an appreciation for these courses and there’s different places to play golf. Right, but trees, birds, pathways through woods, that kind of thing that’s golf for me.

Jim: 38:25

Yeah, the scenery, and the architecture as well, does play a huge part in it.

Chris: 38:27

Yeah, it is a massive part of it, and it’s interesting, isn’t it? It’s almost detaching the golf from the all round experience of walking around that course.

Nish: 38:39

I’m personally not pre-empting I suppose I am pre-empting Kings, but for me the Grand King should be reversed. For me it sounds like it just. You know, I enjoyed the Queens, I had a better round of Kings and I actually played really well in the Kings course. However, I had a more fulfilling enriching golf experience playing the Queens.

Chris: 39:09

Course, I think we both enjoyed Queens more, didn’t we? As an experience, I think we enjoyed the Queens more. Was it a 68-pound, 68-pound sport? But the thing about the Queens is only 5,500 yards. We were looking at going this is going to be a walkout, especially that back nine, but it definitely wasn’t and you had to use your driver a lot more than I thought I was going to. There’s a few holes that you can’t hide enough of teeth, but you’ve still a lot of time when you need a decent drive to get away to start holes. And then you didn’t. He certainly wasn’t pitching putt, I think it was. Maybe points points in it, but we said.

Nish: 39:39

We said this is badged as a really short course. You didn’t feel it.

Chris: 39:42

You didn’t feel it. Apart from, I think, maybe that little, there was a couple of the middle of the back nine. It felt a bit short, it was like a really short par 3, and then there’s that short par 4.

Nish: 39:50

There was a couple of short par 4s, but I think aside from that, I mean you were still hovering around that 400 yard mark, yeah, and it was. You got the distance on the drive, then it gave you an easier go, but even then I was still hitting a five iron to the approach. So I think that was. I enjoyed that round immensely, like full on, I’m sure for you.

Jim: 40:16

I know how excited you were in the build-up too.

Chris: 40:19

I think we both did, didn’t we? We were both so, so happy.

Nish: 40:24

I’m glad we did it that way around as well. We did have a choice, but I’m glad it happened that way round.

Chris: 40:28

We were buzzing, we were absolutely buzzing. And then we had to get going into the hotel afterwards as well. We were in the spa for an hour afterwards. It was a pretty main thing.

Nish: 40:36

It was great we got well maybe we’ll talk Signature Hall Challenge in a minute, but in terms of scores so Chris had an absolute barnstorming back, it looks like he got another birdie. He got back to that birdie, back to that birdie, back to that birdie and he had a chance at about three birdies.

Nish: 40:56

Third, birdie yeah, yeah, but I think then the putting thing happened, didn’t it? I think? Is that right? Was that what the deal was? Was your approach not good? Which one? Was that? It was a 16. A 16? Yeah, can’t remember. Yeah, but something happened on there that just meant you couldn’t go for the birdie. It’s probably the first time, or the only time, anyone’s ever going to mention his team course in the same breath. It had, for me, a bit of a feel of Michael’s really great about it, in that I think you could play it like a whole concert and you wouldn’t get bored of it.

Chris: 41:30

Definitely not. You could never get bored of it. Ah, I’m saying that you couldn’t get bored of it.

Nish: 41:35

Yeah, you couldn’t get bored of it, I took so many pictures, it was like that’s a great, that’s an approach, that’s great. I feel the scenery you weren’t holding a plate of it no, actually I didn’t feel like it At any point. Did it feel like there was anybody in the area?

Chris: 41:49

It didn’t really feel that busy, like sometimes you feel like you’re just kind of crammed on. You’ve got your little window and you need to kind of, I think, like St David’s. It felt like that, doesn’t it? It was just like tea tea, tea.

Nish: 42:05

You’re in the balance of two ways. Interesting thing that they do. At the halfway there’s a mandatory 10 minute stop and there’s another starter on hold. It was 11, wasn’t it? It was a mandatory 10 minute stop. I think we were more glad of that, to be honest.

Chris: 42:21

It’s such a brilliant idea. Wherever there’s a halfway up, they should just do that. It has worked so well Because they’re like you are already down, it’s not something you can say yeah, yeah, pressure of like If there’s no starter then, how do you deal with that?

Nish: 42:35

Whereas they’re a starter, so they knew who was starting. They’re coming out and saying Mike, so you’re also up to a tee off now getting back under. Yeah, yeah.

Chris: 42:42

It keeps playing. It’s great it keeps moving. It also just gives you the chance to just have a little break. Yeah, exactly, enjoy it.

Nish: 42:50

There’s like there’s a pretty many halfway levels in it, like Spectres cafes, athenic, absolutely and a little bit of lights outside.

Chris: 42:56

You know Lots of little lights outside, nice little seating area, but there’s people like from the hotel just coming out for a walk or a bike ride and just sitting there for an hour or so. Yeah, it’s a good high point. You can see a lot of the valley and the hills.

Chris: 43:09

So you’re saying the rest of the course, the Kings course and the PGA and Not the PGA but sort of like one half of the PGA. I think that’s the only advantage. So he’s almost quite secluded, I think. But Colin, the guy we played with on the next day at the Kings, was basically saying they could fit another one or two golf courses on this site, like certainly around the Queens you could fit another golf course in it easily if they just redesigned it and there’s so much space out there that you just you know.

Nish: 43:41

So we both, chris, had a horrific front nine and we both shot the same score 46. And then I was the same on the way back 46, chris was. It’s a par 33 for the last nine, the back nine. We shot a 35 too low for the back nine.

Chris: 44:00

Do you know what that’s the? That’s the best little stretch of golf since coming back, like I was. It felt really good. But do you know what? That’s the best little stretch of golf I’ve played since coming back. It felt really good. You hit it well, Hit it really well. There wasn’t many bad shots in. There was there. Yeah, we battled on the ball really well, that’s 81 total.

Nish: 44:15

yeah, 81 total.

Chris: 44:18

That’s an eight on a pack five, which is pretty much nerd off of me. That’s rare, isn’t it? Yeah, so I was very happy with the way I played. Really. I had the first six holes basically completely screwed my card, but after that it was pretty solid. So, yeah, really, really really doubly enjoyed that round. Yeah, it was a great round at the old one it was a mega.

Nish: 44:36

I got a 92, which was I don’t know that was 24 over the pass and that was I think it was four shots worse off, three shots worse off than what my adjusted handicap would have been on that course. So that is by no means disastrous for me.

Chris: 44:55

I was very happy to shoot something that was in double figures, you know, in your 100, especially that small double spot. Yeah, I mean you were a lot better than world spot. You got your game back a little bit and I didn’t put well. So I said to Chris the greens.

Nish: 45:12

We probably should mention this. Actually, at the time that we played, the greens were slow in that first afternoon and as the sun came out they did speed up. I couldn’t get a gauge of the speed.

Chris: 45:27

I think they must have been cut for a little, while they certainly weren’t freshly cut because they felt quite long, didn’t they? The?

Nish: 45:32

grass was quite long on them, so they were quite tricky to put on. I thought, yeah, and actually they were all I don’t know. When you stood on there. They looked quite innocuous, didn’t they?

Nish: 45:41

Yeah, you’d hit, you’d put it, and it was like there’s quite a big break there and sometimes you’re like that’s going right to left easy, no problem, no problem. You send it out wide and it went the other way and I think we’ll see it on the videos when we post the signature hold stuff. But there’s a couple we’ve been impressed with and put and it’s gone. What’s happened there?

Chris: 46:05

Every day of the week that looks like like this the green is like this, and then you put the ball in and it goes that way. I think also but true for both courses if you miss it just to the edge, there’s a strong chance that if you’re chipping towards the hole, you’re going to end up off the other side or come back to your feet. There’s a lot of that, isn’t there? There’s a little plateau. You’ve got to get the to it. If you don’t get it there, the ball’s gone. Your knackered.

Jim: 46:23

Yeah, I felt it, I think it’s good to have all those different types of experiences, because when you turn up and it’s like, oh, isn’t this stunning and beautiful.

Chris: 46:32

Yeah, and I think it’s much more giving and playing. It’s much better than you know, and I think you know, like I was saying earlier, I think we want to play it like they’re playing. So you want to play it when it’s hardest and it’s almost impossible to get round, I know. But that’s part of that experience and, like we said a few times, we’re walking in the footsteps of those great players. So, yeah, I think you’re right, jim. I think having that mix is perfect, of course it is.

Jim: 47:00

Yeah, and that makes it easier for the competition when you’re doing a rank what is your favourite. So obviously you’ve got different opinions.

Nish: 47:06

Well, we’ve had good chat about that today. Actually, we’ve had a bit of a rant. We’ve had a bit of a rant.

Jim: 47:10

We’ve had a really knuckle down on how we rank these things. I think it’s going to become more and more complicated. You know because you’re in 7 and 8.

Nish: 47:23

Yeah.

Chris: 47:24

We’ll really want to know about the signature holes.

Nish: 47:27

Oh, you do. I don’t think we played the 18th. We were so happy at 17. Queen’s Hame, which I think is home, queen’s Hame.

Chris: 47:33

Yeah, which was a great finishing hole, actually Great finishing hole Five, four, all the way downhill, 350 yards 379.

Nish: 47:43

379. All the way downhill, it’s a very, very long drop. What do you want to know? I think we should start with Nish.

Chris: 47:51

Where did it go, left or right?

Nish: 47:55

It went straight. Oh, did it Just straight. Not very far oh. Which, by the way?

Chris: 48:01

I didn’t know existed. Well, to be fair, when you’re above, when you’re still on the tee, you can’t see that at all, can’t see that. It’s like right down in a dip. Yeah, you can’t see it.

Nish: 48:09

But it started with one, wasn’t it? No, but the only thing I got from him was he was like you need to go over that mound, that’s the line that you’re going for. And I was like, okay, right, that’s obviously pretty off the team. Right, actually hit a decent drive. I think about 260 yards, wasn’t it? Hit a decent drive. It’s just ended up in the semi-rough on the right hand side. It was longest drive, wasn’t it? So Nish had chopped it into water. So I said, does that mean I can just take an?

Jim: 48:38

eye in. I was like no, you’ve got to drive it. Yeah, you’ve got to drive it. I was like, yeah, fuck it, that’s what he did. He smashed it. That’s what he did To 330 yards 330 yards. And to be fair, it must have been on fire.

Chris: 48:51

The only problem is though. Jim is it went in the bunker, but if it had been like two yards to the left, it would have gone in the green. It’s when it’s. This isn’t a joke, by the way. What do you call a bunker when it’s in the rough? You call it a bunker, right yeah. What do you call a bunker when it’s in the fairway Bunker?

Nish: 49:13

But what kind of bunker, fairway, a fairway bunker. You can’t say you’ve hit the fairway. Well, I mean, it’s a fairway bunker, isn’t it? Why would you call it a fairway bunker? Because it’s part of the fairway. There’s no way you’re giving in that. I’ll show you the map, jim. I’ll show you the map, jim.

Chris: 49:30

So this is the bunker here, this one C-shaped Fairway, fairway, fairway, fairway, all around the bunker.

Nish: 49:35

Yeah, I’m just going to say one thing. You know those bunkers that are bi-green. What are they called? The green side bunkers? Does that mean you hit the green? Exactly, exactly. Well, I’ve hit those.

Chris: 49:45

So how many more do we need? Sorry?

Nish: 49:47

Nah, can’t have that.

Chris: 49:53

So I’m going with the Jim, yeah.

Nish: 49:56

That’s not a long drive. I’m not having that. It is a long drive. It’s got to be in the fairway. It’s got to be sat in the fairway, in the fairway bunker. You clarified that. It’s got to be sat in the fairway, the fairway bunker. You clarified that. It’s got to be sat in the fairway. You can’t hit the fairway and roll off into the rubble. You’ve got to hit the fairway. Yeah, there’s no way that’s a long drive. It was a long drive, sorry, but there’s no way that’s a winning long drive, yeah.

Chris: 50:15

It wins.

Nish: 50:16

It’s not happening. Mate, Is that a fairway hit stat? Because when PGA count fairway hits, that bunker does not count as a fairway hit. I know that.

Chris: 50:30

But when it’s a fairway bunker, I’m pretty sure it does Mish.

Jim: 50:32

Yeah, I think obviously you thoroughly enjoyed that experience, I mean in terms of the rankings of the courses played so far. So this was number seven. Well, there’s a couple of things here. Where would you rank it in relation to what we’ve been playing already and also any holes that would enter your top?

Chris: 50:51

Oh yes, let’s do that first, let’s do that first, because there’s the final three on that. Yes, that one’s easy, we can do that one. So definitely six and seven. We’ve written those down as definite. I written those down as as definite. I think we should put five in there, because I think we just not got the yardage chair out there before we put that in that par five, that part three, rather, can I have a quick oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, actually, yeah, I almost think that was probably.

Chris: 51:15

That was a gorgeous thing. Yeah, yeah, between five and six. They were probably my two favorite holes. So what was it? Five, six, five, six and seven. I think I’m happy to put all those in. We’ve not got loads of holes in there in a minute. It’s a great stretch of golf holes, though it really was.

Nish: 51:30

I think it would surprise me if one, if not two, of those don’t stick around in that, because they’d be difficult to be. The one that might disappear, maybe might be the part 5-7.

Chris: 51:47

Yeah, agreed that might disappear off that.

Nish: 51:50

Yeah, but at the minute I’ve not played anything that much better than but I had a good momentum and rhythm to that, golf course, jim Nice flow.

Chris: 52:01

Yeah, lovely flow, but it was, you know enough to keep you interested. It felt a little bit like you were just kind of in a like a glade. That was kind of the thing that I Gorgeous place to play you off. It was a nice, gorgeous place. The clubhouse, I mean, what’s the number equivalent of magnificent? We’re talking about the hotel now or the clubhouse.

Nish: 52:20

The clubhouse- We’ve got to attach the hotel. Yeah, agreed, what’s the? Or the clubhouse, the clubhouse? We’ve got to detach the hotel from this. Yeah, agreed, is the clubhouse your dreams? I think we’ll see better clubhouses. You think, yeah, where Places like Hoy Lake? I think Hoy Lake’s going to have the history. Yeah, it’s beautiful as well, but I don’t know, I’m not sure about that.

Chris: 52:43

I don’t think we’ll get to see all of it by the way.

Nish: 52:45

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas accessible areas, there’s loads of areas that you can’t go into. It’s going to be like even as a birthday. You’re very restricted in the way you can go in, which, by the way, has dropped 13 places on the official rankings that’s come out today. Do you reckon I was?

Chris: 53:00

thinking. I was just thinking that’s because of the changes they make for the Open.

Chris: 53:03

They can’t be penalising them for that because I don’t know, but maybe I mean to be fair. Maybe they’ve done the changes that very good, maybe the changes aren’t very good or maybe you can’t actually get on it and play it. Maybe it closed out for hold-off. But that shouldn’t prejudice their rankings, should it? But I guess it’s changing every year. Then I suppose they’re doing stuff to at tournament. I think, maybe that, maybe that, maybe that made it overly difficult. I’d like to know.

Nish: 53:25

Yeah, I mean I’m not bothered enough to go and read what happens. However, that’s the biggest dropper. I think we should send this a message at one o’clock in the morning going. I’ve read it.

Chris: 53:37

I hope we find a better cup of house. I think it was great. Find a better clubhouse, I think it was great. I just hope it was the best one we’ve seen so far. Yeah, I think there’s a couple better out there.

Nish: 53:48

That’s getting a nine and a half for me, because there’s always, there’s always some place. There’s always some place better. We don’t know that Exactly. Yeah, it could have been a better match or something, couldn’t it? It has to be purpose built now. Now, so they’ve gone, actually, we. That works, let’s make it better yeah. So yeah, the clubhouse was. It’s worth getting there early. It’s worth sticking around for a drink afterwards. Yeah, my breakfast man, yeah, actually my breakfast is so good I’ve knocked four points off for my lack of breakfast.

Nish: 54:26

Course rating is interesting because Chris has done it. I haven’t actually quite settled on mine. This is what led to our debate, didn’t it really about where we rank stuff. Maybe we need to do our own rankings and then average it to find I don’t know.

Jim: 54:43

I don’t know if anybody cares what we actually rank the courses, but we could both have your own rankings.

Chris: 54:49

Yeah, it’s probably easier. I think we’re doing it as a pair. I think we could. We said we could do. We could probably average it out, can’t we? We could do my rankings, your rankings and then the Blundell average. Yeah, yeah, I think so. What did you rank? The course? Er, good question. So I had 8 for Queens. 8 for Queens, yeah, okay, it’s well above that rank. Yeah, where’s that rank compared to? Well, it’s still a.

Jim: 55:11

It’s still a still a 9. More to go 8.5.

Chris: 55:14

Just the third, third best in terms of course, third best.

Nish: 55:18

In rankings I probably had it as third as well. It’s crept on to my top three now. I thought it might go straight in top of the pops, do you?

Nish: 55:27

I again. This led to more chat we were having today because I said we need to do it separate and I think anything’s budging. For me, mortan was better than Scylla. Mortan, scylla’s one and two you can argue one or the other the other way. But and then, yeah, queens jumps into Burg for me because it was a really great course. Really great course and the fact that you can play there and score there and then you add in all the other stuff that comes around it. We’ve got to look at it from the view of somebody listening might only play two, three, four, maybe even one of these courses. If you’re going to Glen Eagles, you’ve got to make the effort to play both. You should do, because if you’re not local anyway, if you’re going all the way up there, it’s well worth it. But if you only pick, if you only pick one, for me I’ll bet Queens, because I’d walk away from that and go. That was, that was a bloody brilliant day.

Nish: 56:33

I mean, I think and I’ve got a few things out of that, and it’s always nice to do things like get early and stuff like that and get a few pars and go out to score as well so it’s kind of the beginning to that, and again I’m thinking of this from.

Nish: 56:46

You know I don’t play well, I do play often. Sorry that’s a bit, but you know I’m not, I’m not, I’m not good, I’m from a not good perspective. So for me, the experience and the enjoyment that I get out of that around the golf, rather than the challenge is what gets me going, but I think anyone who’s a golfer should absolutely go to Glen Inglis.

Chris: 57:09

Like I was a little bit you know it’s a resort course and all this kind of thing and wasn’t sure whether it would get stuffy in the hotel Like it was one of the best weekends I’ve ever had. Like it was incredible from start to finish. The whole experience was just something else.

Nish: 57:25

Can’t speak highly enough about that really can’t.

Chris: 57:28

And like I came away, like we got back and we got back and you guys were still there and I felt so like upset that you guys were still there and we’d have to come home, like it felt like this weird, like come down to go back to normal life, yeah, this weird kind of otherworldly life.

Nish: 57:43

For a couple of days I had a message from Mark, who will be listening, because he listens every single week, who we’re going to meet at Janssen, at our next course. And Mark said how was it? And it was a four letter word that I responded with it was just all in capitals and I was like mate, that was word that I responded with, it was just all in capitals and I was like May, that was it. That, for me, summed it up it was a magical weekend. It was, it really was. It was awesome you should make. Yeah, it’s worth taking that alone.

Chris: 58:15

Yeah, yeah, you might need to do that. You’ve just got to kind of suck it up in terms of the price you’re going to pay for a sandwich and whatnot. But I think as long as you go in there and go right, I’m only here for a couple of days, I’m just going to enjoy it, Get your scoat about your heart.

Nish: 58:27

You’re going to be all right, exactly, yeah, if I take a shit to Scarlett, you can, yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s what I’d do. So, yeah, I suppose the only’s Course review. So actually listen to both. I think 100 in 10 as a pair, it’s difficult to separate the two. Actually it is a little bit. Yeah, you know, and we’re comparing, aren’t we? So it’s worth listening to what we say about the King’s Course.

Chris: 58:56

I think the only thing left for me to say is Fairway Bunker is part of the Fairway, full stop.

Nish: 59:05

I think what he meant to say was when he said about fables. He meant please subscribe to our YouTube channel as well, as you get to watch a fuller version of these episodes, so it’s worth watching. Next time on the Top 100 in 10 Golf Podcast, we’ll review the Kings course at Glene agles and confirm that a fairway bunker is not a fairway.